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European Spreadsheet Risk Annual Conference Programme announced
Thursday 3rd and Friday 4th July 2025
University of Greenwich, London, UK

eusprig.org/conferences/euspri

Spreadsheet Entertainment
AI and LLMs
Excel languages
Research into human-computer interaction
Horror Stories

Register on eusprig2025.eventbrite.co.uk/

@EuSpRIG #eusprig #conference #London #HCI #research #AI #LLMs #Excel #TDD #Spreadsheet #Risk

Mind blown🤯 - turns out that #LibreOffice #Calc can natively read some (but not all!) variants of the ancient #Microsoft #Multiplan file format.

Multiplan was a #spreadsheet application from the early/mid '80s that preceded #Excel. More info on the format in this excellent 2023 post by @Thorsted:

preservation.tylerthorsted.com

And Multiplan is still available here:

winworldpc.com/product/multipl

preservation.tylerthorsted.comMultiplan – Obsolete Thor
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Total sidenote, just for #auspol nerds, here's the #spreadsheet fun I've had …

I nerdswiped myself because of my old faithful tactic being unavailable — I'll reveal it even if not valuable to most people — I used to take the Family First HTV and say thank you, because they were very useful — and then turn their HTV upside down. A handy alignment of 180° interests, in the 2010s for me. But they don't run everywhere anymore.

But once you go past the 2PP candidates, it doesn't matter of course

I need to set up a private spreadsheet that is viewable and editable by an elderly relation (who uses spreadsheets all the time) and a couple of younger family members, one of whom lives interstate.

The obvious answer is Google Sheets. Is there an alternative that is usable for these people?
#spreadsheet #spreadsheets

If you're willing to help with working on this spreadsheet of key contact information for problematic U.S. officials and their associates for call/(e)mail campaigns, it would be much appreciated.
[2025 U.S. Officials' Contact Info for Public Communications] docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d I'm happy to provide editing access upon request.
#USPolitics #Government #Officials #Contact #Information #Musk #Trump #DOGE #Congress #Tesla #Crowdsource #Project #Spreadsheet #Effort #WhiteHouse #Cabinet #Democrats

Google Docs2025 U.S. Officials' Contact Info for Public Communications

Looks like this weekend will have to include time to review some #firefox alternatives after #mozilla 's last bit of madness... Can anyone else say #spreadsheet time?

Because I think there are definitely going to be that many options.

Side note: How the fuck is this all compatible with their pledge and #manifesto (mozilla.org/en-US/about/manife)?

MozillaThe Mozilla ManifestoThese are the principles that guide our mission to promote openness, innovation & opportunity on the web.
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@neauoire
I like it so much.

If the software development was done in a right way we'd end with the most often used tools which don't have a reason to get new features anymore (text editors, spreadsheets, file managers) rewritten in the most efficient way possible. Like, idk, in C with hot path in assembly (or in Rust for security-critcal parts) with tiny memory footprint on 90% trivial cases, milliseconds to first user input etc.
In fact we have exact the opposite - asm in the office apps was absolutely normal in the 90x and I can't imagine anyone doing this nowadays, memory footprint of an empty spreadsheet is 200MB and it takes 5sec. to load with cold cache on a 3Ghz 4 cores with 16G ram with SSD. And the most items in the changelog are about fixing compatibility with some proprietary crap (in FOSS) or adding AI, moving to subscription model or even more telemetry in non-free.
#assembly #foss #spreadsheet

Okay, I don't know if this is a #GTK thing, a #Gnome thing, a #LibreOffice thing, or a #Cinnamon thing, but I just discovered probably the most user-hostile "helpful" behaviour I've seen in a piece of #software in a long, long time.

The find-and-replace dialog in the LibreOffice #spreadsheet - I haven't checked the remainder of the apps - has the typical buttons for "Find All", "Find Previous", "Find Next", "Replace", and "Replace All".

... and no obvious keyboard shortcuts for them. Nothing shown, no #affordances, no typical underlined or bolded letter in each button's label text. Doing a large amount of selective search&replace (don't ask #Etsy cough cough) is incredibly painful. There's *got* to be #keyboard #shortcuts, right?

Here's the #evil: the shortcut keys are not indicated *until you hold down the alt key*. Then it underlines the appropriate letter in each button's label, but those underlines disappear again when you release the alt key.

So you can study this bloody dialog box until the cows come home and never see a hint of a keyboard shortcut, even though it has them.

#$*&!^%@ Who thought this was a good idea?

Weird question about Microsoft Excel

So I have been wanting to learn more about how to use Microsoft Excel so I can teach other people about some of the more advanced programming techniques. But then I really do not want to burn up all of that disk space just to run Wine and Excel.

So I got to thinking:

  1. is there an older version of Microsoft Excel I could use instead?
  2. The “ribbon” UI/UX asside, how far back in time (in Excel software versions) would I have to go before the formula language and cell computation engine became too different from the most recent Excel that it would not be very useful for me as a learning/teaching tool?
  3. Would it take less disk space to run this in a minimal Windows NT 2000 or Windows XP instance on QEMU than it would take on Wine?

These are all the relevant, native office apps for Linux. I installed them all to test and show them here. Some of them aren't maintained anymore (e.g. a few Calligra apps, Glom etc), but most are still applicable. If you're considering a move to Linux, you should be able to find what you're looking for among them, and among the various online web offerings.

Two different #spreadsheet programs are 'Numbers' by Apple and 'Excel' by Microsoft. One great thing about Numbers is that they make it very easy for you to change your password. One great thing about Excel is that its files are much smaller (34 KB) than the same file on Numbers would be (745 KB). The file sizes I mentioned here are for one specific file, as an example, not for all files. #tech