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Update: test complete! Thank you all for helping 🩷

This was a test of content warning mechanics.

Findings:
- The search tab trending system excludes posts with content warnings from trending.
- Posting, and then editing to add a CW, also stops a post from trending.
- Removing the CW later will make the post eligible for trending again.

Note: I did not test if adding a CW would remove an *already* trending post from the trending list.

Thoughts: The way trending formula interacts with content warnings actively discourages accessibility by creating a situation where reach and accessibility considerations are at odds.

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@benroyce @Serenus
@sandwich

I don't need CW; I'm finding filters sufficient.

It's a tough question. I strongly agree that engaging with the world we find ourselves in is our shared responsibility.

And yet: offensiveness is subjective. Why is it *obviously* appropriate to CW sex and violence, topics that not everyone wants or needs a warning for?

There's a difference between offense and damage. Framing the question as preferences, or what might offend, makes it easier to ignore the people who say lack of CW harms them. Just as framing masking as a courtesy makes it easier to ignore the folks who say your exhalations might kill them.

When someone says "I need X to protect myself," a reply that sounds like "Y is perfectly adequate.. you shouldn't need X," strikes me as all kinds of wrong. It smacks of "Well, why don't you just.."

I expect I'll be inconsistent about my use of CW vs. tags. But I'm not going to be offended by being asked (either generally or directly) to put some stuff behind CWs.

About #ContentWarnings aka #CWs
About #AutisticPeople
About #Depression #Anxiety #Autism #Suicide

Did you know that Austistic People are 3 times more likely to die to suicide?
Did you know that many Austistic People also suffer at a much higher rate than neurotypicals from countless mental and physical comorbidities including depression, anxiety, heart disease?
Did you know that many Austistic People are much more easily overwhelmed than their neurotypical peers?
Did you know that many Austistic People are extremelyl troubled and overwhelmed by political news especially these days?
DId you know that putting #News items (especially #PoliticalNews) behind a Content Warning (CW) possibly #SavesLives?

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@damon It doesn't help that Mastodon itself is largely a bubble.

Some 70% of all Fediverse users are on Mastodon. But it seems like that within Mastodon itself, at least 95% of all posts originate from Mastodon. Maybe even more.

There are several reasons for this.

First of all, other projects don't federate with Mastodon that much.

Misskey is huge in East Asia, especially Japan. And Japanese Misskey users who hardly know English or not at all won't be interested in connecting with Western Mastodon users, so a large chunk of the second-biggest free project in the Fediverse is out of the equation.

Lemmy is the third-biggest, but Lemmy federates with Mastodon only barely so, also because Lemmy is all about discussion groups and enclosed conversations, both of which Mastodon simply doesn't support. Lemmy users can't follow Mastodon users because Lemmy users can't follow users, full stop. And Mastodon users have to wrap their minds around how to federate with Lemmy. It isn't as straight-forward as communication within Mastodon. And so they simply don't.

Other examples include Hubzilla and (streams) channels having ActivityPub off on purpose to keep ignorant and obnoxious Mastodon users out.

But this goes the other way as well. Mastodon can be outright hostile to non-Mastodon users. Why? Because they don't behave like what Mastodon users are used to from Mastodon and, by extent, partly also Twitter. And they have joined the Fediverse in expectation of something that's one big distributed but homogenous Twitter clone. Anything that deviates from that may be disturbing.

There are Mastodon users who, upon seeing a post with over 500 characters, and be it in the federated timeline, block the poster. This alone cuts into the reach of everything that isn't Mastodon. Not few wish for a switch with which they can permanently filter out all posts with over 500 characters.

Others may block everyone who uses text formatting. Either it simply goes on their nerves. Or they can't imagine that it's even possible to format text in the Fediverse because they can't do that on Mastodon, so they think it's all some Unicode trickery. And as this Unicode trickery is not accessible and inclusive because it irritates screen readers, they deem whoever uses text formatting ableist and therefore blockworthy.

Then there's the issue of content warnings. They must be provided the Mastodon way, or you risk being blocked. However, not everything out there provides a) the right text field with b) the right label on it. Non-Mastodon projects may still label the summary field a summary field instead of a CW field like Mastodon does.

Friendica, for example, has done away with that text field entirely and users BBcode tags instead. Hubzilla doesn't provide any means of adding a summary/a Mastodon CW to a reply. And both have had their own way of adding CWs since long before there was Mastodon which their own users consider vastly superior to Mastodon's way.

In general, boosts are very important on Mastodon. I'd say that most activity on Mastodon is boosts because they're so easy to do on a phone without a hardware keyboard. Your reach on Mastodon depends on boosts.

But if you don't play exactly along Mastodon's written and unwritten rules, and if you don't adhere to the "Fediquette" which is entirely defined by only Mastodon users and geared towards only Mastodon's features (or lack thereof), you're boosted far less.

If you post more than 500 characters at once, it takes a lot for your post to get boosted.

If you post an image without alt-text, the post will be boosted dramatically less because not exactly few Mastodon users refuse to boost image posts without alt-text. You may even be muted or blocked for not providing alt-text. But alt-text only is a thing on Mastodon, and hardly anyone provides it outside Mastodon.

In general, anything that deviates from the standards defined by vanilla Mastodon will cut into your visibility on Mastodon deeply.

CC: @Hiker

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #NotOnlyMastodon #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #CW #CWs #CWMeta #ContentWarning #ContentWarnings #ContentWarningMeta #Fediquette
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@F4GRX Sébastien If I had any way to add another click-to-open level that works on Mastodon as well without mobile users having to deal with their Web browser popping open, I would.

Things would be way easier if sensitive Mastodon users got used to the concept of filters, though, and learned how to set them up. That's one reason for my many hashtags.

But it's strange to see someone from chaos.social irritated by too many CWs.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mastodon #CW #CWs #CWMeta #ContentWarning #ContentWarnings #ContentWarningMeta
hub.netzgemeinde.euNetzgemeinde/Hubzilla
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@The Nexus of Privacy I'm someone who usually follows all advice about good Fediverse behaviour to a tee. That is, as far as Hubzilla lets me, as long as it doesn't require me to abandon Hubzilla's own culture in favour of only Mastodon's culture, and as long as it doesn't require me to abandon a number of Hubzilla's key features because Mastodon doesn't have them.

Some may say I'm overdoing the Mastodon-style content warning thing, at least in posts. Hubzilla doesn't support content warning in comments, and if I reply to something, it's always a comment and never a post. Otherwise you'd get one big honking Mastodon-style content warning here. You do get a huge pile of filter-triggering hashtags, though.

Some may say I'm overdoing the image description thing. My image descriptions in alt-text are among the longest in the Fediverse, and these are my short descriptions. My long descriptions for the same images which go into the posts are the longest, most detailed, most explanatory image descriptions in the Fediverse, full stop. And I keep raising my own standards. I only have one image description which I don't consider outdated, obsolete and sub-standard yet.

So I'd normally love to fulfill everything in your post to a tee by my definition of "a tee". And my definition of "to a tee" is everyone else's definition of "Are you completely insane, man?!" But this time, it's more difficult. Call me racist, but it's more difficult.

(1/7)

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Hubzilla #CW #CWs #CWMeta #ContentWarning #ContentWarnings #ContentWarningMeta #Hashtag #Hashtags #HashtagMeta #CWHashtagmeta #Filters #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta #Racist #Racism
hub.netzgemeinde.euNetzgemeinde/Hubzilla
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Hat Friendica aber wieder ein dediziertes Zusammenfassungs-Textfeld? Die alte Dreifaltigkeit Titel, Zusammenfassung, Post?

Ich schrieb ja über Mastodon-Apps und Friendica, daß eine Mastodon-App irgendwas braucht, was genauso funktioniert wie Mastodons CW-Feld. Etwas, wo sie verläßlich immer eine CW reindrücken kann, so daß die dann genauso verläßlich wie auf Mastodon als CW funktioniert. Und zwar, ohne auf irgendwelche projektspezifischen Spezialitäten eingehen zu können.

Die App muß Friendica immer 100% verläßlich blind wie Mastodon "bedienen" können.

Natürlich kann man auf Friendica den Titel als Zusammenfassung/CW nehmen. Aber zum einen muß das eingestellt werden. Zum anderen muß die App dann die CW ins Titelfeld eintragen. Eine Mastodon-App wird aber stur versuchen, die CW ins Zusammenfassungsfeld zu drücken, ob da jetzt eins ist oder nicht.

Wenn sie jetzt die CW ins Titelfeld eintragen soll, dann ist das ein Friendica-Spezialfeature. Wenn sie selbsttätig aus den Einstellungen erkennen soll, ob die CW in den Titel eingetragen oder z. B. als BBcode realisiert werden soll, ist das erst recht ein Friendica-Spezialfeature.

Ich weiß nicht, vielleicht kann Fedilab das. Aber die ganzen praktisch reinen Mastodon-Apps, die von Leuten entwickelt werden, die ihren Lebtag von Friendica noch nie auch nur gehört haben, die können das nicht.

Eine rein gegen Mastodon entwickelte App wird wiederum für Alt-Text ein Textfeld anbieten, das den Alt-Text in ein Bild einträgt, das an einen Post als Datei angehängt ist. So läuft das nämlich auf Mastodon und nur so.

Mein letzter Informationsstand ist, daß genau das aber auf Friendica nicht geht. Wenn man da Alt-Text haben will, muß man das Bild erst hochladen, dann in-line in den Post einbetten und dann den Alt-Text in den BBcode eintragen.

Theoretisch ginge das auch mit einer App. Aber das wäre wieder ein Friendica-Special-Feature. Und eine reine Mastodon-App von einem Entwickler, der Friendica überhaupt nicht kennt, unterstützt keine Friendica-Special-Features, sondern wirklich nur und ausschließlich Sachen, die Mastodon kann und die Mastodon genau so macht.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #CW #CWs #CWMeta #ContentWarning #ContentWarnings #ContentWarningMeta #AltText #AltTextMeta #CWAltTextMeta #Friendica #MastodonApp #MastodonApps
hub.netzgemeinde.euNetzgemeinde/Hubzilla

Should a content warning include some indication of what's inside?

If it doesn't, does it still empower people to choose what content they are exposed to?

If it does, does that upset people before they get to make a choice?

Seems there are problems either way 🤔

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@ErosBlog Bacchus It doesn't help at all that Mastodon's content warning culture is both developed, cultivated, educated and enforced with the mindset that either the Fediverse is only Mastodon and nothing else, or everything in the Fediverse that isn't Mastodon was made after Mastodon and works exactly like Mastodon. (I hope your reaction wasn't, "Wait, it isn't, and it doesn't?!")

And then you have Mastodon users who get all riled up when a post or reply comes in from Friendica or Hubzilla or (streams) with no Mastodon-style CW at all and, to add to the "insult", more than the seemingly agreed-upon limit of four hashtags at the end. As if it wasn't bad enough that it's unabashedly over 500 characters long.

Good thing I don't post about real life at all, so I don't post about US politics either, at least not in public. But I've got my share of things I need to warn people about which go on their nerves. I do add Mastodon-style CWs to posts which aren't replies (can't do that on replies), but I also add loads of corresponding hashtags to trigger people's filters and NSFW apps.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #CW #CWs #ContentWarning #ContentWarnings #CWMeta #ContentWarningMeta #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #NotOnlyMastodon #FediverseIsNotMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse
hub.netzgemeinde.euNetzgemeinde/Hubzilla

Fed up with not being able to boost great toots that don't have content warnings?

Here's a bookmarklet that will let you add a content warning and repost the toot in seconds:

👉 mastodoncontentmover.github.io

Hope it helps—please boost for reach, and let me know how it works for you!🙏🧡

p.s. It's the first version; all (civil) feedback and bug reports welcome. I've tested it successfully in my versions of Firefox and Edge.

mastodoncontentmover.github.ioMastodonRetootBookmarklet

@tokyo_0

"A new tab should open showing the composer, pre-populated with the text from the toot you want to share. You can make edits and add a content warning, and then publish, within a few seconds — or take as long as you want!"

Utterly astonished that this allows anyone to alter the original content of a post *they* themselves did not author by adding a CW warning overlay and (apparently, on quick reading) even edit the text of the original post

What's to stop *anyone* from completely negating and/or reversing the original author's meaning and intent?

How do I block this completely?

Did you allow for any mechanism for that, or is what people post now entirely under the control of random, unknown third parties?

Just (again) because some coderbro thinks it's a bright idea?

Wow...

Fed up with not being able to boost great toots that don't have content warnings?

Here's a bookmarklet that will let you add a content warning and repost the toot in seconds:

👉 mastodoncontentmover.github.io

Hope it helps—please boost for reach, and let me know how it works for you!🙏🧡

(p.s. It's the first version; all feedback and bug reports welcome. I've tested it successfully in my versions of Firefox and Edge.)

mastodoncontentmover.github.ioMastodonRetootBookmarklet

Content Warnings (CWs) are a way of hiding your post behind a warning message, so that people can choose whether they want to view it right now.

Sometimes CWs might be used for discussing potentially disturbing topics, but they are also useful for lighter things like avoiding film spoilers.

Here's a complete guide to using CWs on the Fediverse, including how to switch them off if you prefer:

➡️ fedi.tips/how-to-use-content-w

Let me know if I've missed something!

fedi.tipsHow to use Content Warnings (CWs) on Mastodon and the Fediverse | Fedi.Tips – An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse
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