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#Komoot jetzt nicht nur voll mit Fehlern, sondern auch #DarkPattern. Wie kann man diesen Dialog schließen (der kommt eh jedes mal)?

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Every site that puts up a cookies dialogue is now saying loudly what their priority is, and it is NOT what they say it is.

It's a massive RED FLAG because they have a choice. Either
- inconvenience you from the very start because overall they see a benefit TO THEM or
- provide an option via a footer link to get extra features by accepting #cookies, say "enable cookies" or "enable extras"

Today's culprit (for the eleventyth time: NO) is #HargreavesLansdown for continued use of this #DarkPattern

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@lolgop I support this idea and I will probably sign the petition (I’m a TM customer. Still mulling over whether I want to support Verizon or AT&T instead).

I support #TeslaTakedown and participated in one of their protests. But look at how scummy this petition is.

First I notice that they inform me that I “may receive” email from a bunch of groups. That’s weird because it implies uncertainty.

Then I notice this microscopic, grey-on-grey text that says “edit subscription preferences”. I haven’t signed in to this site, so how do I even have any preferences to edit? I tap it and it expands to an already-opted-in list of ELEVEN different orgs who will all feel entitled to spam me because they will point to this as the time I affirmatively opted in to receive all their emails.

How many petition signers even see that, much less click it? This is a #DarkPattern and this is really slimy. The ONLY way to be slimier would be to opt me in without even telling me.

The word “preferences” is plural, implying I have more than one preference. In practice my choice is to accept email from all 11 or none. It’s a single preference, hidden from view as much as possible.

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I managed to get a video of this dark pattern. 12 seconds in you can finally see the faint "skip" button pop in. First I have to click the 'What's happening under the hood?" link. Then I have to leave the explanation on the screen for a while, then skip appears.

Here's a nice #darkpattern from #AmazonQDeveloper. Installing it on my #debian laptop and it pops up this GUI. Now, grey text on white background is a completely pedestrian dark pattern.

The thing that is new for me, that isn't obvious from a single screenshot, is that the "skip" grey text doesn't appear at all for like 10-20 seconds. When you first see this dialog box, there's no 'skip' button. This might lead you to believe it isn't possible to skip. I tend to read things that pop up. And so while I was reading the skip button appeared.

Thanks #darkpatterns

This really rubs me the wrong way.
I'm donating to a charity through givebutter.com, and after I indicated that I wanted to make a one-time $180 donation, it popped up this prompt.
This boils down to, "If you agree to donate twice as much money as you said you wanted to, it'll have twice the impact!" which is tautological, but presented in a way which IMO is a dark pattern.
This is gross.
#GiveButter #charity #DarkPattern

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@1peter10 No way! I looked for this link everywhere now, until I found it at the very end of the page titled "Help downloading the UK ETA app". WTF! That's #darkpattern in use on a Gov website. (Thanks btw, don't mean to blame the messenger)

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@vfrmedia @techlore OFC "Tracking" is also offered as something to reduce the rates but I'm against that stuff as a matter of principle.

  • Being that they "reward" people for that with lower premiums, I can imagine a lot of folks getting shafted into agreeing into it.

And I think that's a #DarkPattern that needs to be banned.

  • OFC parts being serialized is common as to both do proper #recalls for #ProductSafety and also to enshure both #compliance with the safety standards as well as track down stolen parts.

And the latter one is a real problem...

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New #DarkPattern spotted! Is it any wonder why most people just click "I accept" and move on?

Solution: give an easy "No, thanks" button on the initial popup. And if you *must* have a dedicated page, have two separate, clearly labeled buttons for agree and disagree. It's not that hard, do better.

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An example of frustration with Google.

Google added a compulsory "system browser" to my Android.

Should be a no-frills unowned Internet browser, right?

Sorry, read the privacy policy. It's a company data harvester for some random shell company.

That's a dark pattern!
#darkPattern #Google #Android