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#FYI #StefanRahmstorf #PotsdamInstitute #Atlantic #AMOC #ColdBlob #Greenland

"The northern Atlantic is the only region of the world which has defied global warming and has been cooling. What is going on there? What does the latest science say?
Talk at Utrecht University on 5 August 2025."

youtube.com/watch?v=sy2kBPujc4w

#Kipppunkte im #Klimasystem wie das Abschmelzen des westantarktischen Eisschilds oder ein Zusammenbruch der #AMOC könnten unsere Umwelt unumkehrbar verändern – auch in Europa.

Ohne sofortigen #Klimaschutz drohen #Sturmwinter, steigende #Meeresspiegel und massive Schäden an Städten und Infrastruktur.

#Buchtipp: Grundwissen für Erwachsene findet Ihr im Buch "Der #Klimawandel für Einsteiger", ISBN: 978-3-738-63782-3

abendblatt.de/politik/article4

Hamburger Abendblatt · Klimawandel: „Unsere Städte bekommen ein Verfallsdatum“By Theresa Martus
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And now that we have all read the explainer above on #ACC , the Antarctic Circumpolar Current(s),
we can better appreciate what Matt England explains here from about minute 50 onwards
youtube.com/live/39T7bW7KA18
He actually answers a question I put to him beforehand on Bluesky, regarding my confusion about salinification versus freshening.

The beginning of this #ClimateChat episode hosted by Dan Miller and Leon Simons
is all about Matt's paper with Rahmstorf and others about the 2023 bananas in the North Atlantic. You may recall: low wind speed as primary cause by far for the marine heatwaveS 2023 that gripped regions of the North Atlantic one after the other.
Matt explains the multiple ways wind over oceans contribute to cooling.
a) mixing b) white caps on the waves = albedo increase c) ocean spray or fog = albedo increase, and one more I now forget.

As is Dan Miller's habit, he also quickly asks Matt about #geoengineering, bringing SO2 into the #stratosphere .
Matt's reply: 1) angry that fossil fuel industry should be let off the hook by this
2) realistically, the political mindset lets Matt expect that geo engineering will be done.
3) whether he supports this is not answered.
4) as an afterthought, he adds that ocean acidification from relentless CO2 emissions does continue despite geo-engineering, and also the CO2 take-up and later re-release into the atmosphere continues.

Dan Miller also grazes his pet topic #ShippingSO2 . Matt politely agrees that it is a bananas factor – but a small one.

Then comes the Southern Ocean part (thank you!).
At which point the question is also raised and answered with a NO: whether seafloor #clathrate on Antarctica's continental shelf might thaw and cause a methane bomb.

And only one short moment at the end on #AMOC collapse, about which Matt also published a paper recently, namely the #collapse impacts non-Europe areas, such as teleconnections to adjacent basins and into the Southern Hemisphere
nature.com/articles/s41558-022
I think, my question stole precious time from the AMOC part. 😬

Das ist schon ein arg naives Feature. Journalist sieht 2 Teile von einem 1000-Teile-Puzzle: eine Studie und einen offenen Brief von 44 Experten zum #AMOC Risiko, und glaubt die müssen zusammen passen. Dass es 40 Jahre Forschung und viele hunderte Studien zum Thema gibt hat er nicht bemerkt - obwohl unter dem offenen Brief viele Quellen angegeben sind, auch ein Übersichtsartikel. Lesen hilft!
mdr.de/wissen/umwelt-klima/kip

MDR · Kippt das Klima, wenn die atlantische Umwälzströmung versiegt?Eine Studie von 2024 aus dem niederländischen Utrecht hat es in sich: Sie sagt eindeutig einen Kipppunkt bei der atlantischen Umwälzströmung voraus und infolgedessen eine unumkehrbare Abkühlung des Klimas in Europa.
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@why_not @morsuapri Inzwischen wird es immer wahrscheinlicher, dass wir auch das Kippen des #AMOC / #Golfstrom|s bald erleben werden. Was viele Leute imho falsch verstehen, dass es "gut" sein könnte, dass #Europa dann wieder kälter wird.

Ja, kann sein, dass es hier kälter werden könnte. Aber die #Erderhitzung rast trotzdem ungebremst weiter.

Wenn es jetzt irgendwo kälter wird, nur weil die heute noch in der #Arktis und #Antarktis vorhandene "Kühlung" woanders hin abfließt, wird es dafür nur woanders um so schneller um so heißer.

Seen a #TippingPoints story recently about the SMOC (the ocean's overturning circulation around Antarctica, i.e. AMOC's southern sibling) abruptly reversing?

Thankfully, it's not true (seems a press release got overenthusiastic).

Want to know what the paper behind it really said? Read this from the lead author instead: theconversation.com/completely

The Conversation‘Completely unexpected’: Antarctic sea ice may be in terminal decline due to rising Southern Ocean salinity
More from The Conversation UK

“This could double current atmospheric CO₂ concentrations by releasing carbon that has been stored in the deep ocean for centuries,” the report said. Such a release would likely obliterate existing climate targets, as the additional emissions would overwhelm current carbon budgets and render mitigation strategies based on gradual reductions, obsolete.
“The planet is sending us increasingly clear signals that we are crossing critical thresholds,” the ICM warned, characterising the event as a shift from “chronic climate stress” to “acute systemic breakdown.” #ClimateChange #ClimateCrisis #ClimateEmergency #oceans #OceanCurrents #weather #GlobalWarming #AMOC

intellinews.com/southern-ocean

www.intellinews.com · Southern Ocean current reverses for first time, signalling risk of climate system collapseA major ocean current in the Southern Hemisphere has reversed direction for the first time in recorded history, in what climatologists are calling a ...