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Re-Boost plz 
Check out our initiative EU OS 
:
Community-led Proof-of-Concept for a free Operating System for the EU public sector
- https://eu-os.gitlab.io
- https://matrix.to/#/#eu-os:kde.org
- follow @eu_os
We need support to improve the idea, gather like-minded migration projects and gather political support!
@eu_os why should I use EU OS over debian?
@jwildeboer that's very easy to explain: https://code.europa.eu and https://gitlab.opencode.de/bmi/ run on Gitlab. So it's for compatibility reasons.
@eu_os Maybe should be moved to an EU alternative too. 
@jwildeboer
@jwildeboer @eu_os You mean Gitlab.com? Because I see no problem with a self-hosted gitlab.
@bortzmeyer @eu_os I was in a similar situation for a professional project and compared both Forgejo and Gitlab (CE, Community Edition). What I found was that important, IMHO basic, features are paywalled by Gitlab and need a per user subscription (see https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/feature-comparison/ ). Also, participating in upstream development is a lot more open at Forgejo, IMHO.
See also the article on why Fedora decided to switch to Forgejo: https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-moves-towards-forgejo-a-unified-decision/
@zerodivision @eu_os @mattdm openSUSE is a good choice imo.
I have proposed to look into building with #AlmaLinux packages. There is a larger coalition behind it that includes even Microsoft. :) Maybe this can reassure some IT managers.
If its for EU then maybe it should be based on a distro with EU origin ?
Otherwise Trump will ban using Fedora outside of US and we're screwed 
I was thinking about #AlmaLinux. It has several companies backing it. In the end, I find the choice is not so important for the proof-of-concept. Switching between CentOS Stream, AlmaLinux, Redhat Linux and Fedora could be fairly easy.
All of the distros you mentioned have more or less connections to some tech giants. Mainly US ones. I wouldn't trust any of these corpos.
Why don't you guys take something EU originated instead ? If you worried about IT managers then maybe #alpinelinux would be a good candidate ? There is great chance she/he already runs some Alpine based containers.
If EU would help financially, you may even have some voice on where the distro is heading.
My current thinking is: fedora for experimenting and AlmaLinux as an upstream for serious deployments. However, at this stage, the source of the packages is not so important to me as there is plenty to choose. I would just promote that it should support atomic OS, support layering and possibly have a path to use bootc.
If you like to propose new criteria, please add them to the project Gitlab kanban boards so that the thought doesn't get lost.
@eu_os fedora based? really? Debian is right there
@eu_os there are many European distros out there: LinuxMint, Ubuntu, Opensuse, Manjaro are some of them
Needless to say: Good choice
Ⓐ 
Recently my employer gave permission to add my name. So I added it to the footer of the home page. Once there is a proper team, more can be done.
@lig @eu_os @mattdm At the bottom: "Made with 
in Brussels by Robert Riemann" ;)
Robert Riemann works for the European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) according to his own website: https://blog.riemann.cc/about/
Also look at rhe profile page for @eu_os
@sheogorath @eu_os @mattdm
That's a recent addition:)
https://chaos.social/@rriemann/113936528805122622
@eu_os what *is* that
@ity hi! Can you be more specific?
@eu_os is it a Linux distro? What is the goal ? "For the public sector" does not elaborate at all
Is the point a Linux distro regulated by EU directives ? Or like
@eu_os ah, there's a website attached
We'll read it
> use of open standards to foster innovation
> ISO 27001
Might wanna unify the spec and goals. ISO 27001 is not an open standard.
@eu_os Interesting concept. Personally I would probably pick Linux Mint or Ubuntu as base. Imagine this is used on schools, I think more students/ people will use a Debian based distribution at home, so the leaned skills will transfer better to their home situation.
Also, it's probably better to deliver distro independent tools and software then a distribution, as there are plenty already.
More important are people with the skills to offer / maintain this.
@eu_os
Consider Debian or Ubuntu (their headquarters are in the UK)
@eu_os can it be fire tested?
@eu_os Why not just use OpenSUSE? Fully German with a big company backing ensuring secure development and builds? Wouldn't it be better to take OpenSUSE and build something on top of it, where demanding customers could easily replace OpenSUSE with SUSE if they need support from a EU-based company.
To my knowledge #opensuse is not yet available as images with rpm-ostree layer. Though I think this development and #bootc are big advantage for organisations who already work with containers. It is also an advantage for organisations that would require more than one image for different ministries/departments/user groups.
I have followed the development on #MicroOS and @kalpa . It was still beta last time I checked. It works differently.
@rriemann @eu_os I'm a Fedora Silverblue user myself and big fan, so I get the preference. But if you want to go the full-EU route accepting a different approach to the same problem like MicroOS seems an easier thing to overcome than to have to create yet another organization in the Linux space duplicating effort. SUSE is very much a proven company, solves a lot of business problems to build on them from the outset.
@rriemann @jschreuder @eu_os @kalpa I have been using #openSUSE #MicroOS on several servers and as basis for my kubernetes clusters. I have also been daily driving #Kalpa at work for over a year without major issues. I can highly recommend it. Using btrfs snapshots+subvolumes is a nice way to get immutability, but in the end the "normal" user does not really see a difference whether it is rpm-ostree or btrfs subvolumes+snapshots...
@johanneskastl @jschreuder @eu_os @kalpa
Many governments have pipelines to check containers for security. They have pipelines to build and distribute containers. So admins can reuse some infrastructure and know-how. Also, we can share "Docker" base images between departments like we share Docker images already.
In Brussels, admins are more likely to know Redhat-like systems than opensuse ones.
Please add your arguments to a Gitlab issue of the project. Stuff on Mastodon gets easily lost.
@rriemann @jschreuder @eu_os If there's anybody working on delivering an openSUSE Product via rpm-ostree I'm not aware of it.
I know that #Aeon is working on some OCI container stuff for deploying, but I've not looked into it much as of yet.
@eu_os i am curious about the peer reviews
@eu_os i am for removal MS from EU goverments, but why create new stuff and not uplift existing like Linux Mint or KDE Neon?
@Shadow_of_clown @eu_os Please read the project page https://eu-os.gitlab.io/goals