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.:\dGh/:.<p>Give me true async for PHP 9.0</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Programming</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PHP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PHP</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Coding" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Coding</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Code" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Code</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PHP9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PHP9</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Async" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Async</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SoftwareDevelopment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SoftwareDevelopment</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WebDevelopment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebDevelopment</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Software" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Software</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ProgrammingLanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProgrammingLanguages</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JavaScript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JavaScript</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ECMAScript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ECMAScript</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Golang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Golang</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Go" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Go</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WebDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebDev</span></a></p>
Dr. Anna Latour<p>One of my almae matres (?) is hiring!</p><p>From the LinkedIn announcement:</p><p>"The 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐩𝐮𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐒𝐜𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 department at UCLouvain (Belgium) will soon open 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐞𝐞 𝐟𝐮𝐥𝐥-𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐟𝐚𝐜𝐮𝐥𝐭𝐲 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 targeting excellent profiles in the following domains:</p><p>- 2 Positions in one or more of these areas:<br>=&gt; 𝐒𝐨𝐟𝐭𝐰𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐞𝐧𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠,<br>=&gt; 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐬𝐲𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐦𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐥𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐮𝐚𝐠𝐞𝐬,<br>=&gt; 𝐒𝐨𝐟𝐭𝐰𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐛𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐲, 𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐥𝐮𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐥 𝐦𝐞𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐝𝐬.</p><p>- 1 Position in 𝐬𝐨𝐟𝐭𝐰𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐬𝐞𝐜𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐜𝐲𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐞𝐜𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲, also broadly construed (e.g., system security, cyber-physical systems security, AI for security &amp; security for AI, privacy, distributed systems security, etc.).</p><p>The three positions will be open to 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐥𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐥𝐬 (assistant/associate or full)."</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/icteam-uclouvain_uclouvain-icteam-professorposition-activity-7345710022284197889-sNL5" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">linkedin.com/posts/icteam-uclo</span><span class="invisible">uvain_uclouvain-icteam-professorposition-activity-7345710022284197889-sNL5</span></a></p><p>I loved the year that I spent at Université catholique de Louvain! I learned so much there, and every time I am back, I am welcomed with such open arms by the lovely people there. I'm happy where I am now at TU Delft, but seeing this announcement, my heart jumped and I admit that I did quickly check my profile against the positions that are opening.</p><p><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/AcademicJobs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AcademicJobs</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/GetFediHired" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GetFediHired</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/AcademicMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AcademicMastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/AcademicJob" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AcademicJob</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/SoftwareEngineering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SoftwareEngineering</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/ProgrammingLanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProgrammingLanguages</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/FormalMethods" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FormalMethods</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/SoftwareSecurity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SoftwareSecurity</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/CyberSecurity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CyberSecurity</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Belgium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Belgium</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/LLN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LLN</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Universit%C3%A9CatholiquedeLouvain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UniversitéCatholiquedeLouvain</span></a> <br><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/AcademicChatter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AcademicChatter</span></a></p>
Abhinav 🌏<p>I'm starting a series of blog posts, in which I write a <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/bytecode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bytecode</span></a> <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/compiler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>compiler</span></a> and a <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/virtualMachine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>virtualMachine</span></a> for arithmetic in <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/Haskell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Haskell</span></a>. We explore the following topics in the series:</p><p>- Parsing arithmetic expressions to ASTs.<br>- Compiling ASTs to bytecode.<br>- Interpreting ASTs.<br>- Efficiently executing bytecode in a VM.<br>- Disassembling bytecode and decompiling opcodes for debugging and testing.<br>- Unit testing and property-based testing for our compiler and VM.<br>- Benchmarking our code to see how the different passes perform.<br>- All the while keeping an eye on performance.</p><p>The first post of the series that focuses on writing the <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/parser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>parser</span></a> is now out: <a href="https://abhinavsarkar.net/posts/arithmetic-bytecode-vm-parser/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">abhinavsarkar.net/posts/arithm</span><span class="invisible">etic-bytecode-vm-parser/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>programming</span></a> <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/Blogging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Blogging</span></a> <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/compilers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>compilers</span></a> <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/programmingLanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>programmingLanguages</span></a></p>
Larry Garfield<p>All about the new pipe operator in PHP 8.5:</p><p><a href="https://thephp.foundation/blog/2025/07/11/php-85-adds-pipe-operator/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">thephp.foundation/blog/2025/07</span><span class="invisible">/11/php-85-adds-pipe-operator/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://phpc.social/tags/PHP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PHP</span></a> <a href="https://phpc.social/tags/programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>programming</span></a> <a href="https://phpc.social/tags/programminglanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>programminglanguages</span></a></p>
Charly Coste 🇫🇷<p>Today I realized <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/Go" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Go</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/Rust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Rust</span></a> both have panics instead of exceptions and both originate from the second half of the 2000s.</p><p>These facts are now mentioned in <a href="https://gato-lang.dev/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">gato-lang.dev/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>If you have experience with Go or Rust, I'm interested in your thoughts on the lack of exceptions in these languages. It looks to me like an attempt to simplify things that eventually backfired, as evidenced for example by <a href="https://www.crowdstrike.com/en-us/blog/dealing-with-out-of-memory-conditions-in-rust/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">crowdstrike.com/en-us/blog/dea</span><span class="invisible">ling-with-out-of-memory-conditions-in-rust/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/ProgrammingLanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProgrammingLanguages</span></a></p>
रञ्जित (Ranjit Mathew)<p>A mix of neat and not-so-neat stuff 🫤:</p><p>“10 Features Of D That I Love”, Bradley Chatha (<a href="https://bradley.chatha.dev/blog/dlang-propaganda/features-of-d-that-i-love/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">bradley.chatha.dev/blog/dlang-</span><span class="invisible">propaganda/features-of-d-that-i-love/</span></a>).</p><p>Via HN: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44445877" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4</span><span class="invisible">4445877</span></a></p><p>On Lobsters: <a href="https://lobste.rs/s/msjy28/10_features_d_i_love" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">lobste.rs/s/msjy28/10_features</span><span class="invisible">_d_i_love</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Programming</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/D" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>D</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DLang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DLang</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ProgrammingLanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProgrammingLanguages</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Syntax" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Syntax</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Listicle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Listicle</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Raves" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Raves</span></a></p>
Abhinav 🌏<p>I want to read a <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/compiler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>compiler</span></a> book written in the last 15 years that covers same topics as the Modern Compiler Implementation book by Appel, but uses recent terminology, tools and techniques. Any recommendations? <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/compilers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>compilers</span></a> <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/programminglanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>programminglanguages</span></a></p><p>EDIT: It seems like no such book exists. I guess I’ll have to read docs, blogs and papers along with old books to put things together myself.</p>
Vassil Nikolov | Васил Николов<p>&lt;"/&gt;<br>There’s only one truly universal ecosystem: the C ecosystem.</p><p>Here is my quick and dirty interpretation.</p><p>The actual ecosystem of computer programs is the machine language of the architecture they are running on.<br>Programming in machine language is done in assembly language.<br>C is (still) the dominant machine-independent assembly language.</p><p>NB: this universality excludes the bytecode languages of the JVM etc.</p><p><a href="https://ieji.de/tags/ComputerProgramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ComputerProgramming</span></a><br><a href="https://ieji.de/tags/ProgrammingLanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProgrammingLanguages</span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oldbytes.space/@amoroso" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>amoroso</span></a></span></p>
Hacker News<p>Learn OCaml – Exercises</p><p><a href="https://ocaml-sf.org/learn-ocaml-public/#activity=exercises" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ocaml-sf.org/learn-ocaml-publi</span><span class="invisible">c/#activity=exercises</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HackerNews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HackerNews</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LearnOCaml" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LearnOCaml</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Exercises" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Exercises</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FunctionalProgramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FunctionalProgramming</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OCaml" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OCaml</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CodingPractice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CodingPractice</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ProgrammingLanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProgrammingLanguages</span></a></p>
OS-SCI<p>Kotlin, Swift, and Ruby have fallen from their top 20 positions in the Tiobe index. According to Tiobe CEO Paul Jansen, these languages are losing traction as the market consolidates around more established technologies. Python remains the dominant language. The top 20 languages now cover 83.56% of the total market, indicating a preference for proven technologies over new ones. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ProgrammingLanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProgrammingLanguages</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TechNews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechNews</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SoftwareDevelopment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SoftwareDevelopment</span></a> <a href="https://dub.sh/IO1smaU" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">dub.sh/IO1smaU</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
vascorsd<p>Announcing Rust 1.88.0 | Lobsters</p><p><a href="https://lobste.rs/s/llgmmr/announcing_rust_1_88_0" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">lobste.rs/s/llgmmr/announcing_</span><span class="invisible">rust_1_88_0</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/rust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>rust</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ProgrammingLanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProgrammingLanguages</span></a></p>
☮ ♥ ♬ 🧑‍💻<p>“Hedge funds will go to great lengths in pursuit of <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/profits" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>profits</span></a>, whether it is by counting cars in satellite photos of parking lots or shipping gold across the Atlantic. Building a <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/compiler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>compiler</span></a>—a piece of <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/software" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>software</span></a> that turns human-written code into programs a computer can execute—for your homegrown language? That still raises eyebrows.</p><p><a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/JaneStreet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JaneStreet</span></a> is the quant shops’ quant shop, and it does just that, with great success. Last year its trading revenue almost doubled, to $21bn, putting it on a par with giants such as <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/Citigroup" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Citigroup</span></a> and <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/MorganStanley" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MorganStanley</span></a>. And the goose that lays the golden egg is its <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> system.</p><p>But it is what this system is built from that is really unusual. Other firms employ a hotchpotch of <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/ProgrammingLanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProgrammingLanguages</span></a>, allowing staff to choose the right one for the job. At Jane Street almost everyone works in an obscure tongue developed by French academics: <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/OCaml" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OCaml</span></a>. </p><p>Ask a <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/trader" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>trader</span></a> at the firm for its benefits and they will reel off a string of features, such as its support for <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/StaticTyping" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StaticTyping</span></a> and <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/FunctionalProgramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FunctionalProgramming</span></a>, that make it hard to learn but powerful when applied to a problem. The company says the language helps “maximise the <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/productivity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>productivity</span></a> of each person we hire”.”</p><p><a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/HedgeFunds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HedgeFunds</span></a> / <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/finance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>finance</span></a> &lt;<a href="https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/06/26/jane-streets-sneaky-retention-tactic" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">economist.com/finance-and-econ</span><span class="invisible">omics/2025/06/26/jane-streets-sneaky-retention-tactic</span></a>&gt; (paywall) / &lt;<a href="https://archive.md/DQ0ku" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">archive.md/DQ0ku</span><span class="invisible"></span></a>&gt;</p>
Abhinav 🌏<p>For my next <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/compiler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>compiler</span></a> project, I want to write the optimization passes myself, but I don't want to deal with generating machine code for multiple platforms. So tell me <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/programminglanguages" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>programminglanguages</span></a> <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/plt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>plt</span></a> <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/pldev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pldev</span></a> <a href="https://fantastic.earth/tags/compilers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>compilers</span></a> fedi, what is an IR that I can target that has a non-optimizing compiler to machine code and supports multiple platforms? This rules out most popular IR like LLVM, C, QBE, Cranelift etc.</p><p>In short, I want something that does only instruction selection, register allocation and codegen for multiple platforms. I don't need optimization, so I expect this thing to be really small and lightweight, unlike LLVM, GCC etc.</p>
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Mark Gritter

Guido discovers that having a mature programming language kinda sucks.

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“Does ‘worse is better’ still have a role today?” Guido contrasted early development to how Python is developed now: “features that take years to produce from teams of software developers paid by big tech companies. The static type system requires an academic-level understanding of esoteric type system features.” And this isn’t just Python the language, “third-party projects like numpy are maintained by folks who are paid full-time to do so”.

“Now we have a huge community, but very few people, relatively speaking, are contributing meaningfully.” Guido asked whether the expectation for Python contributors going forward would be that “you had to write a perfect PEP or create a perfect prototype that can be turned into production-ready code?” Guido opined for the “old days” where feature development could skip performance or feature-completion to get something into the hands of the community to “start kicking the tires”.

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This is a problem relatively few systems have managed to thread. If they are successful and used by a broad community, it is hard to make changes!

Part of this is that nobody wants to fork Python. The reason people are interested in building X into Python is so that people will use it -- it's technically very feasible to just fork Python and start hacking.

It's not just PL, either. Wikipedia shows some of the same dynamic, where what used to be "anybody can edit" has become a mass of insider-y conventions and policies. These aren't necessarily bad! But they are a inevitable symptom of success: changing course becomes much harder.

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