Today @BrodieOnLinux covered in his Youtube show #EU_OS. Thanks for putting us in your spotlight!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu3S2A02FFc
Few comments ahead of a possible appearance in the show in the future:
1) indeed, we are in concept phase. Join us here, on matrix at #eu-os:kde.org or at https://gitlab.com/eu-os/eu-os.gitlab.io/-/boards/9013559 if you like to contribute.
2) @opensuse is well known, but it's atomic @kalpa does not have the layering support and tooling like @fedora or @almalinux
3) On the US: it's not so black/white.
@eu_os @BrodieOnLinux @opensuse @kalpa @fedora @almalinux
I think since Fedora would be beholden to US laws it doesn't make it the best option to use for European sovereignty.
I'm sure that while ideas are tossed out, we can find a substitute for the atomic nature that Fedora can provide.
@SpaceCheeseWizard @eu_os @BrodieOnLinux @opensuse @kalpa @fedora @almalinux Fedora is also beholden to European laws since Red Hat's Linux engineering is mostly based in Brno, CZ these days.
(Also Linux itself is US-based, since the Linux Foundation is based in San Francisco, CA in the USA)
@SpaceCheeseWizard @eu_os @BrodieOnLinux @opensuse @kalpa @fedora @almalinux
Right, wouldn't a project focused on large scale deployment and maintenance/support of [NAME ONE OF MANY MATURE AND POPULAR DISTROS] with the requirements of public sector orgs be a much more worthwhile project? A new distro? Really? The website comes across as somewhat amateurish too with jokes about requiring Vim and so on. And with the fragmentation of the EU and public sector in general it's hard to understand what kind of status this project has anyway. It has a goal of being hosted by the EU commission somewhere down the line. Wait, this looks like a personal project from an individual who works at https://www.edps.europa.eu/ ? Please, correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's misguided although I'm sure that it comes from the right place. What we need in the public sector here in the EU is education in deployment of linux on the desktop and playbooks around how to integrate into often Microsoft-heavy IT-environments and often hybrid (on premises and cloud) and mixed OS deployments.
Dear @davidlars ,
I am the employee who works in his free time on a common interest project and built over christmas a "somewhat amateurish" website with one joke.
Don't you find your wording disrespectful? What do you want to accomplish with your posting? I invite you to read the project page https://eu-os.gitlab.io/goals . Then, I suggest you focus your criticism foremost on those who just prepare the next Windows 11 migration. #endof10
@rriemann @SpaceCheeseWizard @eu_os @BrodieOnLinux hey, I'm terribly sorry if my post came across as disrespectful, Robert. Truly am. It came from a place of frustration of seeing so many (my own included) failed attempts to bring OSS into the public sector. I wrote in a different post here on mastodon that I'm certain that this project comes from the right place and that we both share the end goal here. But I simply can't see how a new distro would change anything. I also take issue a bit with the fact that many seem to think that this is an official project from the EU commission or similar body. And that is in no way a criticism to you as your website does not claim otherwise. I introduced OSS software like Gitlab, Linux, Kubernetes etc to my orgs in the past and while some of those projects have had limited success, it's been quite painful and hard to achieve. I just want our community to focus on projects which are likely to have a broad impact. One of those kinds of projects which I'm convinced is worthwhile is to find ways to network between those of us who do work to broaden the use of OSS in the EU public sector. Have you reached out to OSOR/Interoperable Europe by any chance?
Again, I'm sorry if my wording came across as rude or disrespectful. I'm open to being completely wrong here and that the idea of an EU OS is exactly the right idea. And if so, I personally hope that the ongoing discussion about base OS leads to considering distros which are less tied US corps, but again, this is not my type of project. I wish you the best of luck with your project!
@eu_os @BrodieOnLinux @opensuse @kalpa @fedora @almalinux
my apologies for not yet having watched the video ... but my question is
what are the key things an EU distro *must* have that the existing fedora/debian/suse don't have?
by "have" I don't just mean technical, I also mean governance and other
I ask because I can't see why something like debian can't be used in the EU
@rzeta0 @eu_os
That was my first though too. Yet another (pointless) distro.
Why not collaborate with well-established distributions like Debian/ Ubuntu, openSUSE, Arch, or even Fedora? By working with and/ or funding one (or more) of these projects, and promoting their use to increase awareness and adoption. However, there might be something unique about it in the future, and I could be wrong.
Looking forward to Brodie interviewing you folks and getting a better and broader view!
I have been hoping for something like this, because at the end of the day such a project will trickle down to an end user such as myself with better software support. I will refrain from further comments until I understand the topic better. I see already that most comments share the same emotion towards using US software for EU digital sovereignty
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Maybe @nixos_org could fit in here (NixOS foundation originating from the Netherlands)?