#usebsd

KaiXinAfter seeing the video from the GaryH Tech channel (<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/users/garyhtech" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@garyhtech@bsd.cafe</a>) I tried <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=netbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetBSD</a> on real hardware for the first time too. The installation really was not as intuitive to me as <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenBSD</a> and <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> , especially I was trying to install the system to a separate partition alongside FreeBSD on the same disk. But hey I finally did it after some googling! <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RUNBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=usebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UseBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a>

KaiXinWhat a big surprise! I just found out that <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenBSD</a> suspend to S3 and wake up worked flawlessly on my <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=thinkpad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinkPad</a> T470S. <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=x" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#X</a> with good old <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fvwm</a> and network with WiFi worked fine after wakeup. Fn function keys for backlight. I previously tested <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> and everything was working great too which is no surprise at all. I don't know if it's because tp had better support for <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a> or because devs tend to use tp thus support them at greater effort. Nevertheless, this is the best performance for the puffy and the beastie I have even seen on bare metal. <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RUNBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=usebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UseBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a>

KaiXinCame across the thread about <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=rust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Rust</a> in <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> base today. Good read: <a href="https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2024-January/002823.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">The Case for Rust (in the base system)</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RUNBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=usebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UseBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a>

KaiXinAlso I am curious about <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> with <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=ports" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ports</a> and <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=poudriere" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#poudriere</a>, how do you guys manage <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> and possibly <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=libreoffiice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LibreOffiice</a>? It took me~5h to compile <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=llvm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LLVM</a> default flavor on my laptop, I would just assume giants I listed above will take more than 10 hours? I still remember old days when I was using <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=gentoo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Gentoo</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> and whenever there was updates for them I had to keep my PC on overnight...But nowadays <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> seems to update more frequently, I dare not to compile few times a month. <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=usebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UseBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RUNBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a>

KaiXinPilot compiling with <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=poudriere" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#poudriere</a> for <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=ports" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ports</a> went well! It did seem a bit complicated to configure at first but sing ports made easy with <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=poudriere" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#poudriere</a> and <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=jail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#jail</a>. It was so simple and straightforward to actually run <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=poudriere" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#poudriere</a> that I secretly thought it took out all the fun of seeing scrolling screens of compling! <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=usebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UseBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RunBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a>

KaiXinNow after successfully building and loading <code>drm-61-kmod</code> for <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> using <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=ports" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ports</a>, I am building the <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#xorg</a> mininal port. Thanks all fedi friends for your help. <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RunBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=usebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UseBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a>

KaiXinI am probably using <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=ports" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ports</a> wrong because I first try to install <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=git" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#git</a> so that I can git clone ports tree from git source tree. The next thing I know <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bash" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bash</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Python</a> and <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=ruby" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ruby</a> are being compiled...🫣 <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=usebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UseBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RunBSD</a>

KaiXinI just upgraded <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenBSD</a> from 7.1 all the way up to 7.7 one release at a time in a <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=kvm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KVM</a> VM running on my laptop <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Debian</a>. At first <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=tcsh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tcsh</a> and <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=vim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#vim</a> were giving coredumps. I realized I did not even run <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=pkg_add" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pkg_add</a> even once so I did a <code>doas pkg_add -u</code>. After that all is fine and everything was like before. <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenBSD</a> is truely awesome! <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=usebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UseBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RunBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#unix</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a>

KaiXinEnjoyed reading about Eric's story about the past, present and future of <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=ghostbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GhostBSD</a> GhostBSD: From Usability to Struggle and Renewal | FreeBSD Foundation <a href="https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/journal/browser-based-edition/downstreams/ghostbsd-from-usability-to-struggle-and-renewal/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/journal/browser-based-edition/downstreams/ghostbsd-from-usability-to-struggle-and-renewal/</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=usebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UseBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a>

Alavi | علویHey <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bsd</a> folks, do you suggest I use <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freebsd</a> or <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#openbsd</a> for desktop usage? <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/usebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#usebsd</a>

KaiXinDoes anyone happen to run <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> on Bandwagon Host? I used custom mounted ISO from the list they provided and installation went smoothly but sysctl net.wlan.devices is not listing the vtnet devices found by ifconfig <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=usebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UseBSD</a>

KaiXinMore tests today: Following <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/OpenBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenBSD</a> and <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a>, I tried <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/NetBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetBSD</a> on my laptop today. I never expected but it was the best ever. <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/XDM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#XDM</a> started out of box with a nice <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/CTWM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CTWM</a> sesssion after login, WiFi connects after a few lines ifconfig commands. Suspending to S3 worked but resume resulted in no keyboard or touchpad response. Will look into this. <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/UseBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UseBSD</a> <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/Unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a> <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a>

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