@wolf480pl @cas it's easy...

The reasons one can despise something and the reason one appreciates it can be different.

I.e. I can appreciate #macOS for it's #accessibility right from the #installer but I can #despise it for #Apple not selling it as a commercial #Unix distro for a #subscription

Same with #bash: I can appreciate it for being better than #sh (unix-#shell) , #tcsh or #csh but I despise it for not having modernized like #fish.

• And with fish I appreciate it but I despise it's not the default #shell for any #Linux distro I can use in #production.

It's called having "mixed feelings" or rather #NuancedOpinion.

• Kinda like how every #skiddie and #TechIlliterate can use #Windows but that Windows is shit and the only reason they can is because they got groomed into being #consoomers that accept #enshittification as a fact of life.

@squads no they ain't - they are #WastefulComputing at best if not #exploitation with #clickworkers who have no other means to make ends meet!

• Stop shilling #garbage that only #TechBros who have 0 skills beyond swaying even more #TechIlliterate #VCs into burning money get excited about!

@ajsadauskas @JessTheUnstill @tomiahonen @fuchsiii Maybe had #Mozilla actually cared they could've convinced #Nokia to do #FirefoxOS and we'd not have the shitty #Duopoly of today, but as we all know the decisions were made by #TechIlliterate suits that are just #HornyForMoney"…

@ai6yr @briankrebs OFC this targets #TechIlliterates and the only effective means here are:

1. Teach #TechLiteracy instead of consumerism.
2. Mandate #confirmation & #notification - #PopUp|s for every use of #Clipboard (similar to #webcam use by websites)...
3. Ban #JavaScript - seriously!
4. Ban #Windows, because it's a #Govware, espechally since #Windows10 and even more so on #Windows11 that is *insecure in every configuration!
5. Put #TechIlliterates before a system they can't feck up. I.e. @tails_live @tails / #Tails for that reason alone (can't run such commands if they neither got #root nor any #persistent #storage to target).
6. Normalize the use of @torproject #TorBrowser!
7. #Teach #tech #literacy instead of #consumerism!
8. Ban #GAFAMs and their shitty products!
9. Migrate every #TechIlliterate to #Linux and don't give them administrative privilegues.
10. Teach tech literacy instead of consumerism!

@bagder Problem with that is (besides occasional bugfixes), most people including myself would see #curl to be functionally complete and anything "nice to have" would be considered not worth the balooning in #complexity and #size.

• I mean, does curl need to be able to do #BitTorrent (magnet:), #IPFS (ipfs://) or god forbid #blockchain (i.e. #EVM) support?

• Do you really want to integrate @torproject / #Tor support natively into curl when using #HTTP (localhost:8118) and #SOCKS5 (localhost:9050) #proxy allows for the same and doesn't necessitate having to handle and ingest Tor arguments as well??

In fact if #toybox didn't have a #wget implementation that I could use for OS/1337 I would've merely chosen tiny-curl -o as a global alias or if #tinycurl wasn't an option, curl -o instead.

• Maybe someone who wants to have said functionality like tor support built-in will go and IDK make i.e. #neocurl or sth. along those lines or build something like #ethcurl or #torcurlor #ipfscurl or whatever...

That being said I am glad curl isn't solely maintained by you but has other contributors (give them a shoutout!) but I also am glad you maintain that vital software that most "#TechIlliterate #Normies" most likely never heard of but propably use on a daily basis as part of all the #tech they use to #consume media with...

• I consider curl to be "the #vim of downloaders" (tho that's kinda insulting and limiting since curl is more than just a downloader and more intuitive than vim) with wget being "the #vi of downloaders" (tho wget is even simpler to use than vi)...

Either way, curl is awesome...

@GrapheneOS I think both apps are shit as *both #Telegram and @signalapp demand #PII in the form of #PhoneNumbers.

• #Signal at least has their #client's source code published so similar to like #Tarsnap it's more trustworthy by virtue of better #transparency...

OFC Telegram is (by my personal observation) almost exclusively being used by #Scammers and other #TechIlliterate criminals.

• Trusting Telegram is like trusting #EncroChat or #ANØM aka. #OperationIronside aka. #OperationTrøjanShield: It literally has #Govware #Backdoors because the #UAE of all plaves would've swatted their "HQ" if not forved #Durov at gunpoint to integrate it into it if it wasn't there...

@mhoye @signalapp not really?

We live in 2024, #OpenKeychain exists and even if you're an absolute #TechIlliterate there are solutions like @monocles / #monoclesChat that are easy to setup and just work.

• Also @tails_live / @tails / #Tails exists with #Kleopatra as easy to use GUI and at this point people are only looking for excuses to be #lazy.

It's nut a:skill issue anymore ffs!!!

@MichalBryxi Just communicating with them as a Sysadmin that prevented said scammers from attacking one's systems will get them moving...

But based off @Lilith 's own experiences doing #ResponsibleDisclosure LEAs and #TechIlliterate #judges can be insultingly stupid...

@GrapheneOS I think #Apps should not be allowed to request anything to run but what the user allows them to.

• Apps should not be allowed to require tight integrations and users need to pressure those that make Apps to not do that!

#WhatYouAllowIsWhatWill continue applies to #Enshittification like that of #Uber and this shouldn't exist to begin with...

• But you'd rightfully point out that with most #TechIlliterates being users, that ship has sailed 20+ years ago as the same boomers that once belittled young millenials to not overshare are now basically "unofficial collaborators" for #NSAbook at this point.

So at this point I'd only see a few options that boil down to few decisions:

1. Depend on Google making "good hardware" or getting into talks with other vendors to attain the necessary 1st party support from day 0 per design?

2. Bow before #TechIlliterate|s or double down on "security first" even if that means inconveniencing them?

IDK which answers are "correct", I can merely say what I'd choose but it's not my decision where #GrapheneOS goes...

• Either way I only wish Graphene OS and the team behind it as well as it's users only the best...