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All surveillance technology is bad.

“The surveillance company Flock told employees at an all-hands meeting Friday that its new people search product, Nova, will not include hacked data from the dark web. The announcement comes a little over a week after 404 Media broke the news about internal tension at the company about plans to use breached data, including from a 2021 Park Mobile data break.

Immediately following the all-hands meeting, Flock published details of its decision in a public blog post it says is designed to "correct the record on what Flock Nova actually does and does not do." The company said that following a "lengthy, intentional process" about what data sources it would use and how the product would work, it has decided not to supply customers with dark web data.”

#surveillance #flock #data #people #search #public #tool #darkweb #product #privacy #tech #news
404media.co/flock-decides-not-

404 Media · Flock Decides Not to Use Hacked Data in People Search ToolThe move comes after internal pressure and 404 Media’s reporting.

I've been using @kagihq as my main search engine for four days so far and it has come a long way since I last messed with it in December. Goodbye Google search! 👋

* No AI slop unless you ask for it
* Usually result 1 or 2 is what I want
* As little as $5 covers my searches each month. (I'm on $10 plan)

kagi.com/

kagi.comKagi Search - A Premium Search EngineBetter search results with no ads. Welcome to Kagi (pronounced kah-gee), a paid search engine that gives power back to the user.

The web, “the web” and Google

Listening to Nilay on The Vergecast yesterday, something hit me. There is merit to when people say that the web’s never been more relevant than before. With the Apple ruling that payments on the web should be possible and Google’s own anti-trust trial, the web truly is more important.

It’s where the content and the commerce exist now. The platform has no gate keepers and has never had commerce gatekeepers.

So, when Nilay claims that the web as we think of will change and that Google’s driving away the web that they helped fund and create, he is referring to the large publishers on the Internet.

I honestly think that I am okay with that change. Even within large publishers who are now funded by ads there were the greats that always created a destination and their audience and the ones that were driven by search traffic. I hear that the search traffic might disappear. Again, search like how we did it. IMO, search itself is changing – and like any large scale change, it will first be slow and then dramatic.

Whether that will harm Google’s business model is an orthogonal question. And irrelevant to this post.

Here, I want to call out that large publishers existed before the web. And chose to move to the web. However, the independent website was the one native to the web. Those websites existed before google as a search engine and will continue to exist after Google in its gemini era.

To me, the web is and always was the group of people making interesting things, publishing their own blogs, creating interesting applications and a distribution platform that truly cannot be controlled by anyone. So, with the upcoming rise of AI, I really don’t think of the web as dying. If anything, I feel like the web is growing ever bigger.

Search itself has changed to the demands of what people searching have placed on it and there’s an optimistic case for Google that as long as they are willing to roll with those changes, they are going to be okay. And so will the web.

tl;dr- The web consists of websites. “The web,” is a set of large publishers that get traffic because of the work they do in providing news. Search is larger than news. And the web will outlast both search, google and “the web.”

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@JohnGritt @thalskarth @Vivaldi Sorry, this is a very opinionated statement.

In research, this is quite well studied.

You can learn more about that in my PhD thesis on karl-voit.at/tagstore/en/paper

In short: most people prefer #navigation for local #fileretrieval but #search for the web.

Different psychological effects do participate here.

I can also add another opinionated statement: #fzf is way too cumbersome compared to direct #teleportation concept based on #recency. 😜

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Search query: what's the day after two days before tomorrow?

Google A.I. responds: The day after two days before tomorrow is the day after today, which is tomorrow.

#google#AI#aifail

"…we later realized the #shadowban really was about the type of website we are (i.e., #small and #independent). 
While #Google gives large publishers an appeal and recovery process, small and independent publishers have no path to appeal our shadowbans. This is true even though Google admitted our shadowbans are its fault and not ours.
Though Google apologized, it also said that #search has permanently changed with #AI and thus our #traffic may #neverreturn."

travellemming.com/perspectives

A graphic showing the Travel Lemming's search traffic in Google Search Console
Travel Lemming · Google is Using AI to Censor Independent WebsitesMy letter to the FTC explaining how Google is using AI to censor thousands of independent websites - and to control the flow of information online.

On the latest Timetable podcast, our founder Vlad joins @manton to discuss building a user-first, ad-free search engine, why the economics of search are broken, and how Kagi helps you discover hidden gems from the Small Web - the kind of sites you'd never find on mainstream, ad-driven engines. Listen here:

timetable.manton.org/2025/05/2

timetable.manton.orgTimetable - Episode 137: Vladimir Prelovac
#Kagi#Search#NoAds

'Welcome to Garbage In/Garbage Out (GIGO). Formally, in AI circles, this is known as AI model collapse. In an AI model collapse, AI systems, which are trained on their own outputs, gradually lose accuracy, diversity, and reliability. This occurs because errors compound across successive model generations, leading to distorted data distributions and "irreversible defects" in performance. The final result? A Nature 2024 paper stated, "The model becomes poisoned with its own projection of reality."'

#AI #search

theregister.com/2025/05/27/opi

The Register · Some signs of AI model collapse begin to reveal themselvesBy Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols