Gilles DePemig :OpenAccess:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@lakens" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>lakens</span></a></span> Your discussion of <a href="https://social.coop/tags/pvalues" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pvalues</span></a> is really a bit odd. "Just calculate a number that has no real interpretation, and then interpret it cautiously."* That's bogus.</p><p>Importantly, you missed the opportunity to making the point that, relatively, your p-values do have an interpretation: If you order your effects by p-value from low to high, the top of this list contains better candidates for a future study than the bottom.</p><p>*these are my words paraphrasing/interpreting Daniel Lakens</p>
Recent searches
No recent searches
Search options
Only available when logged in.
eupolicy.social is one of the many independent Mastodon servers you can use to participate in the fediverse.
This Mastodon server is a friendly and respectful discussion space for people working in areas related to EU policy. When you request to create an account, please tell us something about you.
Administered by:
Server stats:
224active users
eupolicy.social: About · Profiles directory · Privacy policy
Mastodon: About · Get the app · Keyboard shortcuts · View source code · v4.3.6
#pvalues
0 posts · 0 participants · 0 posts today
Dr Mircea Zloteanu 🌼🐝<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/statstab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>statstab</span></a> #309 The statistical significance filter leads to overoptimistic expectations of replicability</p><p>Thoughts: Not sure how many researchers interpret p-values are indexes of replicability, but they shouldn't.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/replication" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>replication</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/pvalues" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pvalues</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TypeMerror" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TypeMerror</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>meta</span></a></p><p><a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jml.2018.07.004" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">doi.org/10.1016/j.jml.2018.07.</span><span class="invisible">004</span></a></p>
Dr Mircea Zloteanu 🌼🐝<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/statstab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>statstab</span></a> #295 The Fallacy of the Null-Hypothesis Significance Test</p><p>Thoughts: "the [..] aim of a scientific experiment is not to precipitate decisions, but to make an appropriate adjustment in the degree to which one accepts, or believes, the hypothesis"</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/NHST" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NHST</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bayes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bayes</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ConfidenceIntervals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConfidenceIntervals</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/pvalues" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pvalues</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/significance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>significance</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/testing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>testing</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/hypotheses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hypotheses</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/likelihood" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>likelihood</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/critique" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>critique</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/fallacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fallacy</span></a></p><p><a href="http://stats.org.uk/statistical-inference/Rozeboom1960.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://</span><span class="ellipsis">stats.org.uk/statistical-infer</span><span class="invisible">ence/Rozeboom1960.pdf</span></a></p>
Eric Maugendre<p>"In real life, we weigh the anticipated consequences of the decisions that we are about to make. That approach is much more rational than limiting the percentage of making the error of one kind in an artificial (null hypothesis) setting or using a measure of evidence for each model as the weight."<br>Longford (2005) <a href="http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/stuff_for_blog/longford.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/stuf</span><span class="invisible">f_for_blog/longford.pdf</span></a></p><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/modeling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>modeling</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/nullHypothesis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nullHypothesis</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/probability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>probability</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/probabilities" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>probabilities</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/pValues" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pValues</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/statistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>statistics</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/stats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>stats</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/statisticalLiteracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>statisticalLiteracy</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/bias" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bias</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/inference" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>inference</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/modelling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>modelling</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/regression" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>regression</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/linearRegression" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linearRegression</span></a></p>
Eric Maugendre<p>Surveys, coincidences, statistical significance 🧵</p><p>"What Educated Citizens Should Know About Statistics and Probability"<br>By Jessica Utts, in 2003: <a href="https://ics.uci.edu/~jutts/AmerStat2003.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ics.uci.edu/~jutts/AmerStat200</span><span class="invisible">3.pdf</span></a> via <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@hrefna" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>hrefna</span></a></span> </p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/edutooters" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>edutooters</span></a></span></p><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/nullHypothesis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nullHypothesis</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/probability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>probability</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/probabilities" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>probabilities</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/pValues" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pValues</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/statistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>statistics</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/stats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>stats</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/education" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>education</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/higherEd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>higherEd</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/statisticalLiteracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>statisticalLiteracy</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/bias" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bias</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/media" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>media</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/causalInference" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>causalInference</span></a></p>
Coach Pāṇini ®<p><a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/statistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>statistics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/pvalues" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pvalues</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/math" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>math</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/analytics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>analytics</span></a></p>
Eric Maugendre<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@level98" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>level98</span></a></span> </p><p>😀<br>There even wikipedia on the "Misuse of p-values": <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_p-values" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_o</span><span class="invisible">f_p-values</span></a></p><p>I therefore am adding to my guidelines: "Instead of telling researchers what they want to know, statisticians should teach researchers which questions they can ask. […]<br>Before we can improve our statistical inferences, we need to improve our statistical questions."</p><p>Excerpt from Daniël Lakens (2021) <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1745691620958012" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.11</span><span class="invisible">77/1745691620958012</span></a></p><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/quotes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>quotes</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/nullHypothesis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nullHypothesis</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/probability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>probability</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/math" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>math</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/pValues" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pValues</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/maths" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>maths</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/AIEthics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AIEthics</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/ML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ML</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/statistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>statistics</span></a></p>
ExploreLive feeds
Mastodon is the best way to keep up with what's happening.
Follow anyone across the fediverse and see it all in chronological order. No algorithms, ads, or clickbait in sight.
Create accountLoginDrag & drop to upload