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Riscoprire la magia della blogosfera, con John O'Nolan e Matthias Pfefferle

I social network sono stati costruiti su post brevi, pensati per velocità e scalabilità. Ma cosa succederebbe se la prossima era del web fosse costruita per qualcosa di più profondo?

Due dei "longformer" del social web stanno lavorando su questo aspetto. @john , fondatore e CEO di #Ghost, e @pfefferle lo sviluppatore del plugin #ActivityPub per #WordPress, sono all'avanguardia nell'integrazione delle funzionalità social con blog, newsletter, saggi e qualsiasi cosa che non rientri in uno spazio di 500 caratteri o meno.

In questa puntata di Dot Social, parlano con @mike CEO di #Flipboard, della riscoperta della magia della blogosfera, del perché formattazione, identità e interoperabilità siano problemi difficili da risolvere e del posto che la scrittura occuperà nel prossimo capitolo di Internet.

I punti salienti includono:

  • Importanza per scrittori e blogger
  • Modelli per la scoperta
  • Principi fondamentali per portare il formato lungo sul social web
  • Lezioni dal Web 2.0, posta elettronica
  • Criticità e necessità di collaborazione

L'intervista di @miaq è su #Flipboard

about.flipboard.com/fediverse/…

@fediverso

About Flipboard · Rediscovering the Magic of the Blogosphere, with John O’Nolan and Matthias Pfefferle
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"A New Faith" tinjar.ghost.io/a-new-faith

Why $1/year #subscription ?

1. It is a #symbolic #compact between the #author and #reader
2. #Money is not the point of this #endeavor; #engagement is
3. Subscription allows for sending #updates to long-term readers when I add new aspects to the #world .

Selling your email to a 3rd party - see item 2 above. #Ghost guarantees full #privacy

TinJar · A New FaithPart 1 is available for free to all - online or download in DRM-free EPUB/PDF formats.

#Ghost keeps bringing publications into the #Fediverse: @fedidb counts more than 1700 servers now, meaning more than 1700 blogs, publications etc.

This is cool, but for my collection of verified media organizations in the #Fediverse it's too much. I can't sift through them manually. Does anyone have a better idea to find the media sites in this growing collection. Right now I found four looking thourgh the newest servers, but that's very slow.

It's for this 👇🏼
fingolas.eu/fediverse/overview

All verified accounts by media organizations available from the FediverseMedia in the Fediverse

alojapan.com/1312361/haunted-j Haunted Japan – Midnight Walk Through Kyoto’s Haunted District (Alone) #ghost #GhostHunting #haunted #Japan #JapanHorror #Kyoto #KyotoDestinations #KyotoTour #KyotoTravel #KyotoTrip #KyotoVacation #scary #spooky #travel #京都 Haunted Japan – Midnight Walk Through Kyoto’s Haunted District (Alone) my friends what’s going on everyone my name is Kai welcome to my channel Life of Kai guys I have something so cool to show you today a litt…

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"When we first got ActivityPub working in Ghost, sent out the first newsletter that went out directly to the fediverse, likes started coming *into* Ghost ... The place where you push 'publish', started getting notifications, seeing people are replying, people are liking, people are reposting. And it sounds very contrived, but it was like a lightbulb moment ..."

@johnonolan, 2025

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As a freelancer, there's one thing above all that I wish my clients would never say to me!

as a professional #ghost , the most disrespectful thing that i often hear from clients is that there's more of #gravy than of #grave about me. if you're being haunted by a mischievous spectre who's demanding that you mend your miserly ways, don't say this!

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@Strypey Still, the headbutting was often justified for Mike. Unless, of course, you say that Mastodon is and has always been the one and only Fediverse gold standard and the one and only ActivityPub reference implementation.

I'll give you an example: In July, 2017, Mike's Hubzilla was the very first Fediverse server software to implement ActivityPub. Mike played strictly by the rules. As Hubzilla has a character limit of over 16.7 million and supports text formatting on the same level as the best long-form blogging platforms out there, he declared Hubzilla long-form and made Hubzilla send Article-type objects. Just as the spec demands.

In September, Mastodon became the second Fediverse server software to implement ActivityPub. But Gargron did not play by the rules. He only implemented a tiny subset of the protocol, namely what suited him. And he also broke it: Mastodon could display Article-type objects at their full length. But Gargron staunchly refused to implement any support for anything that goes beyond plain text. The ActivityPub spec explicitly says that Article-type objects are formatted. But Gargron wanted Mastodon to be a purist, minimalist, old-school, original-gangsta, Twitter-cloning microblogging platform. And stuff like bold type, italics, headlines, embedded in-line images or titles aren't purist, minimalist, old-school, original-gangsta, Twitter-cloning microblogging.

And so Mastodon took fully formatted, long-form-blog-style posts from Hubzilla and ripped everything out that wasn't plain text. It basically defaced Hubzilla posts. That is, it had been defacing Friendica and Hubzilla posts all the same ever since it was launched. But this time, there was a spec that actually defined what Mastodon was doing as wrong. And that spec had been finalised and pronounced a W3C standard meanwhile.

So Mike asked Gargron to please follow the official ActivityPub spec and make Mastodon support full HTML rendering for Article-type objects.

Gargron refused. Old-skool microblogging is plain text and only plain text, full stop.

This went back and forth. Eventually, Gargron presented a "solution": Mastodon now "renders" Article-type objects by showing the title and, right below, a link to the original. That is, basically not at all anymore. Of course, this meant that the vast majority of Mastodon users no longer read what came from Friendica and Hubzilla because they couldn't be bothered to open that link.

Mike saw this as a direct assault against Friendica and Hubzilla and an attempt at excluding both from "the Fediverse" which was almost entirely Mastodon at that point already. So he himself had to break the spec and make Hubzilla send Note-type objects instead so that Mastodon renders them at all. It still defaces them to this day.

(Friendica's solution was to send an Article-type object when a post has a title and a Note-type object when it doesn't have a title. Optionally, it can always send Note-type objects.)

By the way: This very same head-butting has returned. Not between Gargron and Mike, though, but between Gargron and much bigger players. Platforms like Flipboard and Ghost have introduced ActivityPub, and they send Article-type objects just as the ActivityPub spec demands. The same goes for WordPress. And, of course, they don't send plain-text "long tweets". They send fully formatted news articles and blog posts.

And now they demand Mastodon, as the biggest player in the Fediverse by user count, make their Article-type objects look just like they look at the source. They demand Mastodon not only render bold type, italics, headlines and the rest of the subset of text formatting that was introduced with Mastodon 4 in October, 2022. They also demand Mastodon show the titles and, most importantly, leave the images embedded within the articles in place, no matter how many they are.

This is no longer Gargron and his devs vs a guy in the Australian outback. This is Gargron and his devs who try hard to bend the Fediverse to their will and assume supreme control over it vs the Ghost Foundation, Flipboard, Inc. and Automattic, Inc. that play strictly by the ActivityPub rules. And I dare say that Automattic, Inc. alone has more money and more market power than Mastodon gGmbH and Mastodon, Inc. combined.

Mastodon has always gotten away with ignoring and breaking standards, re-inventing wheels and implying towards its religious followers that the whole Fediverse was built upon Mastodon and around Mastodon, and that everything that does things differently from Mastodon is inherently a broken add-on to Mastodon or an evil intruder. This time, they won't. And I guess they've actually taken it into consideration.

CC: @Tim Chambers @rakoo

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