#devuan

SenioradminThe dist-upgrade to <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Excalibur" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Excalibur</a> went so badly wrong today that I had to hard reset the computer. In the process, some system files were destroyed. I'll reinstall tomorrow.

BoxyBSD<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/RUNBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RUNBSD</a>! But BoxyBSD now also starts to support <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a>! We're starting soon with the Linux support for already present users, offering free boxes:* <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/AlmaLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AlmaLinux</a> * <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Alpine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Alpine</a> * <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Debian</a> * <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a> * <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/CentOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CentOS</a> * <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Fedora" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fedora</a> * <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Gentoo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Gentoo</a> * <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OpenSuse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSuse</a> * <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OpenEuler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenEuler</a> * <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/RockyLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RockyLinux</a> Just next to our core OS like <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OpenBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenBSD</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/NetBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetBSD</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/MidnightBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MidnightBSD</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/DragonflyBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DragonflyBSD</a> (and <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#illumos</a>). This should also make the step easier to compare and test different scenarios where BSD provides a different behavior compared to Linux systems.Thanks to <a href="https://mastodon.gyptazy.com/@gyptazy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gyptazy</a> for the implementation!<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/VPS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VPS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/VM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VM</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/VirtualMachine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VirtualMachine</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Hosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Hosting</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/IPv6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IPv6</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/BGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BGP</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/FreeHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeHosting</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Community" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Community</a>

lp0 on fire :unverified:If you're upgrading to <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Debian</a> 13 (trixie) or <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a> 6 (excalibur), make sure that usrmerge has been installed first. (You can remove it at any time.)

radhitya 🇮🇩 I run this instance under Debian for learning purposes as system administration, btw. > Why not <a class="hashtag" href="https://pl.100indie.org/tag/devuan" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#devuan</a>? Someday i'll migrate over there. I am still very busy for now

Elias Probst<a href="https://mastodon.social/@jpmens" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@jpmens</a> since I assume you're not into <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a>, this might just mean you're running something more LTS-ish/enterprisey that's not (yet) shipping >=systemd 256 ☺️<a href="https://mastodon.social/@bagder" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bagder</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@hyc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@hyc</a>

http<a href="https://mastodon.ie/@Phiznlil" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Phiznlil</a> The primary advantage is that Ubuntu is based on debian's testing release, which has countless *KNOWN UNACCEPTABLE BUGS* at any given time other than about a minute before declaration as stable on release day, and debian (stable) is based on fixing those bugs before release.Though I have to admit, the ubuntu installer sure is slick.<a href="https://mastodon.social/@starlabssystems" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@starlabssystems</a> I'm running <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#devuan</a> now, ever since debian switched to systemd for the laughable reason that everyone else was doing it rather than because it was an inherently good choice.

radhitya<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@governa" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@governa</a> i <3 <a href="https://pegelinux.top/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#devuan</a>

Toby KurienAfter trying various <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ubuntu</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#linux</a> flavors on my old laptop with only 4Gb of RAM, I needed to find something lighter that didn't use up more than half my RAM, but I still wanted disk encryption and working hardware keys and trackpad. I tried <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a> (I pronounce this Dev-one) and it is awesome! Super <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/lightweight" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#lightweight</a> and looks great. I only needed to add a tap-to-click config and install xfce4-screensaver, otherwise happy with the defaults.Devuan <a href="https://www.devuan.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.devuan.org/</a>

dlmayhemHighlight of the class: the end.<a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/philosophy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#philosophy</a> <a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#devuan</a> <a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/gnu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#gnu</a> <a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/emacs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#emacs</a> <a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/suckless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#suckless</a>

Kurt KremitzkiI'm sympathetic to the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/InitFreedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#InitFreedom</a> people, but it wouldn't be my first choice of thing to work on, especially since I frankly dislike systemd less than what it's replaced. However, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Guix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Guix</a> is pushing forward <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GNU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNU</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Shepherd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Shepherd</a>, which actually seems to have merit beyond "not systemd"--have the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a> people heard of this? Anyone working on integrating it yet?

uhuruafter dist-upgrading to mobian trixie some months ago, <a href="https://snac.el-hoyo.net/social?t=pinephone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pinephone</a> has been completely useless.. so, time for one last try with it..(before i give it away....) (<a href="https://snac.el-hoyo.net/social?t=devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a> based) <a href="https://snac.el-hoyo.net/social?t=maemoleste" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MaemoLeste</a> will be first OS to try.... systemd distros which are much heavier for the "poor" pinephone, next.... (= <a href="https://snac.el-hoyo.net/social?t=postmarketos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#postmarketOS</a> , <a href="https://snac.el-hoyo.net/social?t=mobian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mobian</a>)

Tushar ChauhanI have been a linux user for more than 20 years, and a Debian user for a good 15 years now. For the first time, I feel like something is off. systemd feels like a Frankenstein that does not belong. It makes the system feel brittle and vulnerable. Perhaps some more reading is in order. But I am also starting to look into things like Devuan.Thoughts? Interesting takes and links?<a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#debian</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#devuan</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/openrc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#openrc</a>

jbz🐧 Life Without systemd: For Real Use Cases<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsCiqogu-bg" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsCiqogu-bg</a><a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/mxlinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mxlinux</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/alpinelinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#alpinelinux</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/voidlinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#voidlinux</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#devuan</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/antix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#antix</a>

Paul CampbellConverting my dev laptop to <a href="https://devuan.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://devuan.org/</a> - Debian fork minus systemd.Going well so far...<a class="hashtag" href="https://mitra.kemitix.net/collections/tags/debian" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#debian</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://mitra.kemitix.net/collections/tags/devuan" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#devuan</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://mitra.kemitix.net/collections/tags/systemd" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://mitra.kemitix.net/collections/tags/linux" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#linux</a>

LINux on MOBileLook at that: If you dislike systemd and like debian packages, but want Phosh instead of hildon (on Maemo Leste), Movuan has you covered: <a href="https://gitlab.com/l2385/movuan/movuan-recipes" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://gitlab.com/l2385/movuan/movuan-recipes</a> Basically, that's a <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#devuan</a> for your <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/PinePhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PinePhone</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Movuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Movuan</a>

Cookie<a href="https://chaos.social/@xro" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@xro</a> Getting a SpaceMouse to work in <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/FreeCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeCAD</a> on <a href="https://toot.community/@devuan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@devuan</a> 1. Install spacenavd 2. reboot 3. run FreeCAD<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/simplicity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#simplicity</a>

noodleTIL Apt-get clean My little VMs have space again! <a href="https://aus.social/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#devuan</a>

Dyne.org foundationSpooktober is here! 🎃 Embrace the spooky season with some unique Devuan swag! 👕✨🔮🖥️ Every purchase helps fund the ongoing development of Devuan, so you can keep your systems running smoothly without the fright of <a href="https://toot.community/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a>!Happy Halloween hacking! 👻💻 <a href="https://toot.community/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a> <a href="https://toot.community/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://toot.community/tags/Spooktober" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Spooktober</a> <a href="https://toot.community/tags/TechStyle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TechStyle</a> <a href="https://fed.dyne.org/post/278305" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://fed.dyne.org/post/278305</a>

Doug Bostrom<a href="https://historians.social/@elysegrasso" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@elysegrasso</a> I've been using and productively not noticing the pleasingly new-paradigm-free <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#devuan</a> for a few years now. [5? Maybe-- we're not supposed to notice our pencils and other settled tools so it's hard to exactly say.]It remains refreshingly inconspicuous in my days.

ShamarBTW, <a href="https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/34184" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">SystemD’s support of systemic surveillance</a> is one more reason to move to <a href="https://mastodon.social/@jaromil" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@jaromil</a>’s <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a><a href="https://www.devuan.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.devuan.org/</a>I wonder if <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Debian</a> customized the defaults in the systemd packages. Maybe <a href="https://toot.community/@dyne" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dyne</a> might distribute an ungoogled-systemd?

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