Farooq | فاروق<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://troet.cafe/@pixelschubsi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>pixelschubsi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@treefit" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>treefit</span></a></span> </p><p>The point is that DeltaChat didn't invent a new protocol, start something from scratch and write the software for it from the first line. As there is a saying:</p><blockquote><p>Good programmers write programs from scratch. Great programmers find an already existing program and use it as a base.</p></blockquote><p><a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> didn't invent <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Email</span></a>, <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>, <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>autocrypt</span></a> or new technology for <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a>. Even WebXDC's real time channels don't use a technology invented by DC.</p>
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Delta Chat<p>In 2014 <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ioc.exchange/@matthew_d_green" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>matthew_d_green</span></a></span> wrote "What's the matter with PGP?" <a href="https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/08/13/whats-matter-with-pgp/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">blog.cryptographyengineering.c</span><span class="invisible">om/2014/08/13/whats-matter-with-pgp/</span></a></p><p>We'd like to humbly report completion of its main suggestions. Better late than never! :)</p><p>- Key management is automatic through <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/securejoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>securejoin</span></a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>autocrypt</span></a> protos</p><p>- <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> relays form an end-to-end encrypted email enclave interoperable with any e-mail address using proper end-to-end encryption. </p><p>- RFC 9580 "cryptorefresh" is rolled out in current releases and will be activated soon. </p><p>One to go? ;)</p>
Delta Chat<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://framapiaf.org/@sardon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>sardon</span></a></span> not that we know off. As far as we know thunderbirds current extension model does not allow even an <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>autocrypt</span></a> compliant plugin let alone all the rest that delta offers. <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/enigmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>enigmail</span></a> used to offer full autocrypt support but when thunderbird changed the plugin model and integrated openpgp into thunderbird they went back to the old idea of "users have to consciously manage their encryption keys" ... An unfortunate old tradition. We aim for modern usable security like signal delivers.</p>
Russ Sharek<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> </p><p>Question for you!</p><p>Do you have any documentation, guides, or tips on how to get <a href="https://mastodon.art/tags/neomutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>neomutt</span></a>'s <a href="https://mastodon.art/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>autocrypt</span></a> working with a chatmail server?</p><p>I've gotten as far as importing my keys so I can read messages from the mail server on both clients, but I can't figure out how to extract the keys from a message so I can add them and send successfully from mutt.</p><p>What am I missing?</p>
mray<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@ryanleesipes" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ryanleesipes</span></a></span> In the talk you offer help for integrating privacy respecting standards (not the proton mail approach)</p><p>I'm no expert - but <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>autocrypt</span></a> and therefore <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> support would be awesome - what is holding you back?</p><p><a href="https://autocrypt.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">autocrypt.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Delta Chat<p>An enjoyable and fruitful <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OpenPGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenPGP</span></a> email 2024 summit closing up .... with many standardization efforts roughly agreed between several players: maximizing metadata protection (IETF header protection effort), ecosystem transition V4->V6 and PQ-keys (IETF replacement keys), <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>autocrypt</span></a> level 2 possibly involving integration of "in-band" with "out of band" key distribution like WKD/HKP which themselves are bound for integration. Believe it or not .... the eco system is moving ;)</p>
Islamic Audiobooks Central<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.growyourown.services/@homegrown" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>homegrown</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> Apparently, you can have encrypted chats with users using other email clients that support the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Autocrypt</span></a> standard like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@k9mail" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>k9mail</span></a></span> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Snappymail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Snappymail</span></a> webmail. Tried with K-9 a while back and it worked great.</p>
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