Delta Chat<p>We don't see, or plan, a place for AI in our software stacks. A few notes. </p><p>Some attempts to use AI tooling provided nothing of value in the chatmail-core-UI stacks that produce the <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> store releases on all platforms. </p><p>Some in the community AI-generated a base <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> app and fixed bugs afterwards.That kind of worked and was borderline useful. </p><p>AI is pretty boring. We have more interesting work to do: evolve private resilient messaging by improving UX, networking, encryption, etc</p>
Recent searches
No recent searches
Search options
Only available when logged in.
eupolicy.social is one of the many independent Mastodon servers you can use to participate in the fediverse.
This Mastodon server is a friendly and respectful discussion space for people working in areas related to EU policy. When you request to create an account, please tell us something about you.
Administered by:
Server stats:
217active users
eupolicy.social: About · Profiles directory · Privacy policy
Mastodon: About · Get the app · Keyboard shortcuts · View source code · v4.3.8
#Webxdc
1 post · 1 participant · 0 posts today
Delta Chat<p>Everyone returns to email in the end. We are there already. <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/whatsapp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>whatsapp</span></a> wants you to add your email to secure your account ... despite all the nay sayers and numerous well funded attempts and claims to kill <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>email</span></a> not even WA can do it. <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> are about deep collab between people, projects and operators to evolve email from within. It is not just about SMTP and IMAP and MIME and OpenPGP which are all exchangeable and can be improved ... Which we set out to do. Cheers.</p>
Darestiet<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> <br>Unsere Familien-Chatgruppe ist seit zwei Wochen bei <a href="https://krefeld.life/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a>. Das funktioniert für alle, und eine erste Terminabstimmung über eine <a href="https://krefeld.life/tags/WebXDC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebXDC</span></a>-App hat ebenfalls stattgefunden. Danke an alle, die <a href="https://krefeld.life/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> zu einer funktionierenden, unkomplizierten und föderierten <a href="https://krefeld.life/tags/Messengen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Messengen</span></a> Alternative gemacht haben!</p>
Delta Chat<p>Comparing <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> against <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>email</span></a> protocols is too limited. What sets <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> apart is *vertical integration* and being driven by UI/UX considerations. Cross-platform Apps and Bots use the Rust core library which connects with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> relays and classic email servers based on a higher level API -- abstracting over SMTP, MIME, <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OpenPGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenPGP</span></a> etc. See <a href="https://chatmail.at" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">chatmail.at</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> </p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> apps in turn use an even higher level stable API abstracting over email/xmpp/... see <a href="https://webxdc.org/docs/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">webxdc.org/docs/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Goffi<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://framapiaf.org/@debacle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>debacle</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://cr8r.gg/@farooqkz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>farooqkz</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@treefit" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>treefit</span></a></span> we have already shared TODO list based on Pubsub in XMPP, it's implemented in Libervia. Using a JS blob instead is a huge regression, the point of having standards is to avoid this. That said, webxdc is neat and I plan to implement it. It's notably nice for games, and few other cases.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/libervia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>libervia</span></a></p>
adb<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://troet.cafe/@pixelschubsi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>pixelschubsi</span></a></span> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> doesn't use <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/webrtc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webrtc</span></a> for real-time channels, please, I recommend you to read and try out things before spreading fake information </p><p>for your information webxdc uses <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/iroh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>iroh</span></a> for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/p2p" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>p2p</span></a> in DeltaChat </p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://cr8r.gg/@farooqkz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>farooqkz</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@treefit" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>treefit</span></a></span></p>
Farooq | فاروق<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://troet.cafe/@pixelschubsi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>pixelschubsi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@treefit" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>treefit</span></a></span> </p><p>The point is that DeltaChat didn't invent a new protocol, start something from scratch and write the software for it from the first line. As there is a saying:</p><blockquote><p>Good programmers write programs from scratch. Great programmers find an already existing program and use it as a base.</p></blockquote><p><a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> didn't invent <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Email</span></a>, <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>, <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/autocrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>autocrypt</span></a> or new technology for <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a>. Even WebXDC's real time channels don't use a technology invented by DC.</p>
Farooq | فاروق<p>Considering that both <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> and <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a> re-invented <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> communication while <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>email</span></a> was already there, makes <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> more interesting.</p><p>The fact that DC didn't invent a new protocol for <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/InstantMessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InstantMessaging</span></a> and just used the protocol which was already there, and also that how far has it gone, is mind blowing.</p><p>At first when I was chatting with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@treefit" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>treefit</span></a></span>, I already was developing a Matrix client(<a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/chooj" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chooj</span></a>) for <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KaiOS</span></a> and it was the only decentralized IM which I was using and investing resources into. I was skeptical but then I thought it would be a good idea to invest into DeltaChat, as well as Matrix. His argument, of course, wasn't good. He was arguing that we need multiple options in the case one of decentralized IMs fail. However this convinced me to give DC a try.</p><p>But now, I see that DC has very unique advantages no other messenger has. Their moto is "playing the long term" game. Unlike Matrix which suddenly exploded, DC moves very slowly. As an advantage, DC is much more consistent, hassle free, has less bugs(in my experience) and has better UI/UX than many Matrix clients. But it has got several disadvantages. Matrix has tons more features which DC hasn't got or has added them just recently such as editing messages and reactions. And it is not yet suitable for public groups, like the ones we've got in the Matrix network.</p><p>Overall, if you want secure chat with friends or family or other people you trust, DeltaChat is a very good option and the experience is very good. And I haven't seen something like <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> in any other IM. However if you want something like <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a> guilds for a community, Matrix is the way to go.</p><p>BTW, DC currently lacks funding, thanks to what <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> did with <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/OpenTechnologyFund" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenTechnologyFund</span></a>(<a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/OTF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OTF</span></a>). If you can help in anyway, financial or otherwise, it will be extra valuable at this point. </p><p>Edit:</p><p>BTW, here are websites of webxdc and DC:</p><p><a href="https://delta.chat" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">delta.chat</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br><a href="https://webxdc.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">webxdc.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/IM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IM</span></a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/Messenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Messenger</span></a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/MessagingApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MessagingApp</span></a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/opensourceIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensourceIM</span></a> <a href="https://cr8r.gg/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>freesoftware</span></a></p>
Delta Chat<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fe.disroot.org/users/rohden" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rohden</span></a></span> Heh, you caught it :) Indeed bots running some LLM for audio transcription or image generation exist. But they are not part of the UI/UX of <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> itself, or of its <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> core Rust library. Bots and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> apps are behind extension points where we intentionally don't control or even know what people use.</p>
Delta Chat<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@pancake" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>pancake</span></a></span> please see <a href="https://codeberg.org/webxdc/xdcget/src/branch/main/SUBMIT.md" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">codeberg.org/webxdc/xdcget/src</span><span class="invisible">/branch/main/SUBMIT.md</span></a> for submitting apps. Sorry it's not more obvious, and requires setting up a codeberg account. Nobody got around to offer a more seamless way to submit <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> apps yet.</p>
Delta Chat<p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/whatsapp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>whatsapp</span></a> has been feverishly copying <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>telegram</span></a> features the last year. Both are now in a battle who enshittifies faster. Mr. Durov announced that <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a>, sitting on the biggest cleartext data and metadata pile second only to <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Meta</span></a>, is to integrate "AI" the next days, see <a href="https://youtu.be/JBCY3ZE9Rz0?t=10135s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">youtu.be/JBCY3ZE9Rz0?t=10135s</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> ... </p><p>Let them fight. We stubbornly continue to focus on resilient private messaging for families, groups and communities, with end-to-encrypted <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> apps and decentralized agency at all levels.</p>
Delta Chat<p>By design, end-to-end-encrypting <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> apps only need ephemeral transport. It's a big deal. Let's compare:</p><p>- <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>matrix</span></a> home servers maintain a cryptographic forever-chain of cleartext social-graph metadata. </p><p>- <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a> servers maintain cleartext metadata visible to Meta.</p><p>- <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> keeps encrypted metadata, hosted at GAFAM</p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> relays do not persist any social graph state, also not in encrypted form. A key goal of our designs: chatmail operators can sleep well at night :)</p>
Delta Chat<p>The last two days saw the number of push notifications spike. Sometimes 80K Google Play push notifications happened per hour, while the baseline was more around 10-20K. These spikes probably indicate Internet availability. <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> is offline-first: you can write messages and attach media, create groups, use <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> apps, setup a second device etc. all without any Internet. Once it returns queued messages are sent out and cause push notifications. <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OfflineFirst" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OfflineFirst</span></a> is crucial for resiliency.</p>
Delta Chat<p>It had to happen: in-chat multi-player <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Quake" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Quake</span></a> III Arena <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> app, running over <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@n0iroh" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>n0iroh</span></a></span> and using the fine work of <a href="https://ioquake3.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">ioquake3.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> folks. Quake3 app is 1.2MB but you need to download once a game file of ~50 MB. It's only one level. </p><p>Realtime-P2P-networked multiplayer gaming arranged through securely end-to-end encrypted email, from a group chat! </p><p>Both Quake3's in-game chat as well as game play messages have forward-secrecy. What a weird future, eh? :)</p><p><a href="https://webxdc.org/apps/#wofwca-quake3" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">webxdc.org/apps/#wofwca-quake3</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Delta Chat<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://sfba.social/@scott" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>scott</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.gassner.io/@peter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>peter</span></a></span> if you need any advise or support let us know :) We particular recommend onboarding with a pre-existing group because then the biggest roadblock, "who can I chat with", is mitigated. Many families, little orgs and ad-hoc groups like attendees in a conference talk, successfully started using <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> this way and particularly appreciated <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> apps that provide an in-chat interactive experience.</p>
Delta Chat<p>1 cent per five years .... is the current marginal hosting cost for a <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> address, with which <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> apps facilitate world-wide private messaging including interactive <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> apps that run end-to-end encrypted in any chat group.</p><p><1 Million EUR per year is the estimated marginal hosting costs for 350 Million EU citizens. Such scaling requires, however, research and development, including careful UX and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/cryptography" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cryptography</span></a> work. Related writing from <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@gordon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gordon</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://newsletter.squishy.computer/p/cryptography-scales-trust" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">newsletter.squishy.computer/p/</span><span class="invisible">cryptography-scales-trust</span></a></p>
Delta Chat<p>Yesterday, 20 people from the <a href="https://safesisters.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">safesisters.org</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> community onboarded with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> in Lusaka, Zambia. Everything worked! Usability, privacy and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OfflineFirst" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OfflineFirst</span></a> ops were appreciated and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> app based organizing met strong interest. Many participants engage in addressing challenges from surveillance state actors, family and partner abuse. Moreover, people with visual impairment were happy about Android's screen reader support.</p><p>It's events like this that validate our efforts!</p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/africa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>africa</span></a></p>
Delta Chat<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fe.disroot.org/users/kskarthik" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kskarthik</span></a></span> we are aware of the importance of native calls for mass usage. Webrtc is discussed and also <br><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@n0iroh" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>n0iroh</span></a></span> based solutions because we use it already for P2P <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> realtime data channels. But someone experienced with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/rustlang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rustlang</span></a> focusing on this call area would be helpful, and could lead to relatively quick results, likely.</p>
Delta Chat<p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> ist a community messenger much more than a monetary focused enterprise. Its offspring developments, the growing <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> efforts are also community grounded.</p><p>Is there any other cross-platform FOSS messaging project, implementing <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/RightToExit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RightToExit</span></a> on many levels, putting all interesting and sensitive computation and interactions into end users devices, constantly and radically denying centrality/control of billionaires and big-tech, to the extent currently possible?</p>
Delta Chat<p>23 is the number of currently active <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> relays we heart about by now. Only 6 are listed at <a href="https://chatmail.at/relays" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">chatmail.at/relays</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> to complicate ongoing state-level blocking attempts. Please keep setting up <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> relays -- and thanks to all the early adopters and carers!</p><p>July 2025 some key contributors will do sessions in <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Lille" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Lille</span></a>, France at <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@passthesaltcon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>passthesaltcon</span></a></span> <br>and discuss the state of efforts to scale <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> to billions of people and bots, without any central points of control.</p>
ExploreLive feeds
Mastodon is the best way to keep up with what's happening.
Follow anyone across the fediverse and see it all in chronological order. No algorithms, ads, or clickbait in sight.
Create accountLoginDrag & drop to upload