Juno<p>OpenRC user services are now a thing in Alpine and I'm migrating many things I had fragile shell scripts start.</p><p>An added benefit is that my sessions in bare ttys have proper services running too!</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/AlpineLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AlpineLinux</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OpenRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenRC</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a></p>
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Tushar Chauhan<p>I have been a linux user for more than 20 years, and a Debian user for a good 15 years now. For the first time, I feel like something is off. systemd feels like a Frankenstein that does not belong. It makes the system feel brittle and vulnerable. </p><p>Perhaps some more reading is in order. But I am also starting to look into things like Devuan.</p><p>Thoughts? Interesting takes and links?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>systemd</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>debian</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>devuan</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sysvinit</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/openrc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openrc</span></a></p>
Open Titus :opensource: :tux:<p><a href="https://youtu.be/dUFk95nf3VM" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">youtu.be/dUFk95nf3VM</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/ita" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ita</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/review" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>review</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>desktop</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/environment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>environment</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/unolinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>unolinux</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/opensourceitalia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>opensourceitalia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/alpine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>alpine</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/openrc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openrc</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/busybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>busybox</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/xfce" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xfce</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/distro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>distro</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/light" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>light</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/install" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>install</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/guide" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>guide</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/fast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fast</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/how" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>how</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/to" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>to</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/terminal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>terminal</span></a></p>
Stefan Gast<p>In case anyone else has the wrong keymap in <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Dracut" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Dracut</span></a> on <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Gentoo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gentoo</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/openrc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openrc</span></a> as well – add the following line to a .conf file in /etc/dracut.conf.d:</p><p>i18n_vars="/etc/conf.d/keymaps:keymap-KEYMAP,extended_keymaps-EXT_KEYMAPS /etc/conf.d/consolefont:consolefont-FONT,consoletranslation-FONT_MAP"</p><p>There is a similar example in the docs somewhere. However, it has all the variable names of the /etc/conf.d files in uppercase, while they should be lowercase (as they actually are in the files).</p>
LogicalErzor<p>So I got telnet working in debug shell (postmarketOS now uses NCM rather than RNDIS and seems like there’s an upstream USB regression as well) but still struggling to get telnet/ssh after debug-shell</p><p>I think I’m supposed to wait till <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/OpenRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenRC</span></a> boots up all the way for ssh access? Got through some problems (enabled UNIX config and increased ramdisk offset)</p><p>The current problem I’m facing is OpenRC hanging on “SVCNAME=dmesg”. /etc/init.d/dmesg is a simple script. Maybe missing kernel configs? Dunno</p>
Kasion<p>Well life wasn't hard enough so I decided to daily drive <a href="https://mastodon.mackners.com/tags/gentoo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gentoo</span></a> with <a href="https://mastodon.mackners.com/tags/openrc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openrc</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.mackners.com/tags/hyprland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hyprland</span></a>. Let's see how it goes over the next two weeks</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.mackners.com/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a></p>
mgorny-nyan (he) :autism:🙀🚂🐧<p>"""<br><a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/tags/OpenRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenRC</span></a> […] has been in a state of bureaucratic decay for a decade now, having all been hoarded by a random corporate contractor about as responsive to the outside universe as OpenOffice (while taking up as much space; they're the entire reason for the farcical metadata/AUTHORS file in the main package repo).<br>"""<br><a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/964589/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">lwn.net/Articles/964589/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>This reminds me of the story. The modern <a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/tags/Gentoo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gentoo</span></a> copyright policy (AKA <a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/tags/GLEP76" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GLEP76</span></a>) has been a long time in the making. More specifically, as you can guess from the author list, it has been a long time in fruitless debate, followed by a short period of creative activity. In its original form, it has been unanimously approved both by the Council and the Trustees in September 2018.</p><p><a href="https://bugs.gentoo.org/653118" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">bugs.gentoo.org/653118</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Not a month later, once we've actually started requiring signoffs per the new policy, one of the Council members requested a "transitional period", to give their company's legal team more time to approve it. Like, they've actively influenced the policy, they've actually voted for approving it, but they didn't mean for it to actually apply at the time — and they've never bothered telling anyone about the problem earlier. Fortunately, they've managed to get a quick approval and started using it.</p><p><a href="https://bugs.gentoo.org/667602" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">bugs.gentoo.org/667602</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>As a side effect of using it, attribution lines to said company started popping up in random ebuilds that their employees touched (malicious compliance or just corporate bullshit?). This heralded a maintenance nightmare. Two months later, metadata/AUTHORS was proposed as a compromise to stop that.</p><p><a href="https://bugs.gentoo.org/672962" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">bugs.gentoo.org/672962</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>All these years later, I'm thinking that we had a simpler solution to all these, and many later problems, at our disposal back then…</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ariadne</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@sertonix" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>sertonix</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@dalias" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dalias</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@leftpaddotpy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>leftpaddotpy</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@dysfun" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dysfun</span></a></span> </p><p>Because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenRC</span></a>, like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SysVinit</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Xorg</span></a> are dead ends.</p><p>The only reason why anyone ever made <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SystemD</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a> is because after literal decades of pain and suffering some folks said: "This is junk!" and invested the monumental effort of replacing already neglected Software that barely functioned with something that does!</p><p>Were the predecessors of systemd and wayland not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/unmaintainable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>unmaintainable</span></a> and bordering on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Abandonware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Abandonware</span></a> before, neither of those would've seen adoption!</p><p>But long-term the best solution wins, and SysVinit as well as X11 were just pulled from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Unix</span></a>-esque systems that predated <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a>, because back then noone had the time.nor resources nor patience do do something better.</p><p>Otherwise we would've gotten systemd and wayland way earlier...</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGog</span><span class="invisible">o</span></a></p>
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