#OmniOS

Stefano MarinelliI've never hidden my admiration for <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#illumos</a>-based systems. I have a few setups based on <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OmniOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOS</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/SmartOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SmartOS</a>, and they're solid as a rock. I like them both: OmniOS is more "malleable", while SmartOS is more of a hypervisor like <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/xcp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#xcp</a>-ng or <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/xen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#xen</a> - meaning you install it on the host and delegate everything else to the zones.I also love <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> jails, but zones sometimes cover use cases that jails can't (and vice versa). For example, imposing RAM limits in jails works, but it effectively "denies more ram" to a process when it requests more memory. The end user doesn't see this directly. On illumos, the user sees everything. I have some `lx` zones with Debian and Virtualmin, and users have never noticed that they aren't really on <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a>. A free or top will show only the assigned RAM.And that's one of the biggest problems with open-source operating systems: they all have something good, and I always feel the urge to use them all! 🙂<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/IT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IT</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/SysAdmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SysAdmin</a>

Stefano MarinelliAs a Barista at BSD Cafe, I'm also an admirer of tea – a metaphor for my appreciation of the good features of other operating systems. And the fact that I like and support BSDs doesn't mean I don't appreciate those other solutions. For example, <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/SmartOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SmartOS</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OmniOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOS</a>, and <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Tribblix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tribblix</a> are superb examples of well-crafted operating systems. Similarly, <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> - <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/openSUSE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#openSUSE</a> Tumbleweed-based desktops give me a lot of satisfaction every day.The foundation of my passion for Open Source also stems from the ability to study, explore, and choose without constraints or restrictions. It's that sense of freedom that drives me to appreciate the good in every solution.If and when I feel caged or forced, all of that vanishes.<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Freedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Freedom</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/IT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IT</a>

Joel Carnat ♑ 🤪:runbsd: Voilà, tout est réservé pour ma première fois à l’<a href="https://gts.tumfatig.net/tags/unixsocialcamp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UNIXsocialCamp</a> de <a href="https://gts.tumfatig.net/tags/dijon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Dijon</a>.:openbsd: J’y vais pour expliquer pourquoi j’utilise <a href="https://gts.tumfatig.net/tags/openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenBSD</a> sur la majorité de mes serveurs, pour parler un peu d’<a href="https://gts.tumfatig.net/tags/omnios" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOS</a> et pour écouter tout le reste de ce qu’il s’y dira.Rendez-vous là bas si tu 🫵 y vas aussi.<a href="https://usc.silentio.us/camp/usc2025-se6/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://usc.silentio.us/camp/usc2025-se6/</a>

joanySSHFS in fstab or a user cronjob? Or something else?Trying to make a "permanent" share to a remote server <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#illumos</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/omnios" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#omnios</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/trbblix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#trbblix</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bsd</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#linux</a>

Claudius LinkTIL about the existence of <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OmniOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOS</a>This brings me to a little <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Rant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Rant</a> Please, by the name of whatever, write your website (at least the about section) with someone in mind who encounters your "subject" die the first time! Let's get back to OmniOS example:The hive page opens with "The Open Source Enterprise Server OS with just the features you need"Knowing nothing before, i don't know significantly more now<ul><li>the OS (operating system) part was clear,</li><li>"Enterprise Server" are buzzwords unhelpful for further search</li><li>just the features I need?!? For now i just "need" to figure out what it is!!!</li></ul>This just leaves the information that it is Open Source, niceOk, let's check the "About" page.There i learn that OmniOS was initially developed by OmniTI, the exact date when the announced the end, the existence of the OmniOS Community Edition Association (OmniOSce)But still no real idea what it isFunny enough a link leading to a The Register article (i accidentally clicked) shows how it can be done better"OmniOS – an Oracle-free open-source variant of Solaris"Now I know what it is, or or if i wouldn't, I could at least could search for Solaris to learn more.While this rant was inspired by and used OmniOS as a (negative) example it's not limited to OmniOS and doesn't say anything about it's qualities.

Dan McDonald<a href="https://social.retroedge.tech/users/matthew" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@matthew</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@stratacast" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@stratacast</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@subnetspider" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@subnetspider</a> <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/OpenIndiana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenIndiana</a> is desktop focussed.<a href="https://hostux.social/tags/OmniOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOS</a> is single-server-or-VM-guest focussed.<a href="https://hostux.social/tags/SmartOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SmartOS</a> is hypervisor-focussed.All are <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#illumos</a> distributions. I know SmartOS has paid-support options (though usually we support <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/Triton" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Triton</a> Data Center deployments).Also <a href="https://hostux.social/tags/illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#illumos</a> distros include dedicated appliance/device user like <a href="https://hachyderm.io/@oxidecomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@oxidecomputer</a> 's Helios or RackTop's BrickStore.That help?

matthew - retroedge.techFrom what I understand, OmniOS is the actively used descendant of Sun Solaris. <a href="https://omnios.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://omnios.org/</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.retroedge.tech/tag/unix" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#unix</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.retroedge.tech/tag/solaris" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#solaris</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.retroedge.tech/tag/omnios" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#omniOS</a>

joanyNo joy yet, the documentation is not understandable for me, how to setup a ppt device in a zoneset device match=/dev/ppt2and then on? <a href="https://illumos.org/man/8/bhyve" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://illumos.org/man/8/bhyve</a> <a href="https://man.omnios.org/7/bhyve#ppt" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://man.omnios.org/7/bhyve#ppt</a>A blogger using <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/omnios" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#omnios</a> passing bhyve zone commands in a attr <a href="https://www.cyber-tec.org/2019/05/29/using-bhyve-pci-passthrough-on-omnios/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.cyber-tec.org/2019/05/29/using-bhyve-pci-passthrough-on-omnios/</a><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/tribblix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tribblix</a> did not like that at all 😂

joany<a href="https://blackdot.be/2023/11/illumos-bhyve-intel-arc/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://blackdot.be/2023/11/illumos-bhyve-intel-arc/</a>Best one yet, managed to get USB dev as a ppt dev.<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/SmartOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SmartOS</a> and i did not agree with ppt_aliases or ppt_matches. <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OmniOs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOs</a> and pcieadm utility made it understandable on my level prtconf -dD is ALOT 😂 But after i have seen output of pcieadm it makes more sense.So tomorrow i will try my favorite <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/tribblix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tribblix</a> to see if we can get passthrough going

Stefano MarinelliPeople working on Linux or the BSDs (or illumos based OSes, etc), are you using two monitors? And, if so, what do you use them for? I'm trying to understand if it makes sense to keep two monitors on my deskPlease boost<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OpenBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenBSD</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/NetBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetBSD</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#illumos</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/SmartOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SmartOS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OmniOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/IT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IT</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/SysAdmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SysAdmin</a>

Jan SchaumannSystem AdministrationWeek 10, Time Travel and SnapshotsGet in, we have to go back... to the snaphots!In this video, we demonstrate filesystem snapshots using fss(4) on <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/NetBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetBSD</a>, ZFS on <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/OmniOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOS</a>, and how NetApp's WAFL and macOS's Time Machine work.<a href="https://youtu.be/zIEBnZAd5dE" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/zIEBnZAd5dE</a><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SysAdmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SysAdmin</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SRE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SRE</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DevOps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DevOps</a>

Thomas MunroNot sure if I can reach any <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#illumos</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/omnios" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#omnios</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/openindiana" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#openindiana</a> people here, but here goes: does anyone know if there is a well maintained GCP image that could be used to run some flavour of illumos? PostgreSQL uses Cirrus CI with Linux, (Free|Open|Net)BSD, Windows, macOS images. illumos is a missing target!

Michael DexterRelated, to whom it may concern…The <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/OmniOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOS</a> boo loader does not appear to support ‘unset pptdevs’ and I sure could have used that tonight.Ping <a href="https://chaos.social/@Toasterson" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Toasterson</a> <a href="https://techhub.social/@SolarisDiaspora" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@SolarisDiaspora</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@ptribble" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ptribble</a> et. al.

joany<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/adblock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#adblock</a> ? What is your BSD take on this?I was trying to get pihole running on a LX container in <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/omnios" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#omnios</a> no lucki have used <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/unbound" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#unbound</a> and a joany-custom blocklist

Stefano MarinelliLately, I've been very busy, both with work and personal matters. However, I did manage to do a series of experiments and tests with OmniOS, and I admit that for some workloads, it has definitely convinced me. Not to replace FreeBSD, but to complement it. Some advantages:- The ability to run both KVM and bhyve VMs is a big advantage because, in some cases, I need to run VMs on KVM (some technicians know it and prefer it). - By giving dedicated zones, I can assign one to each user who needs to manage their VM. This can also be done on FreeBSD by using bhyve in jails. I’ve tried it, and it works well. - The LX zones (Linux) are more compatible compared to FreeBSD zones with the Linuxulator. Systemd works, and the zone limits are correctly reported by Linux commands such as free, etc. Sometimes, I need to give users Linux VMs, and I must use bhyve because the non-functioning systemd and incorrectly displayed limits (it always reports total RAM, not the one limited to the jail) are blocking. In this way, I can avoid double-caching, double kernel, etc. - Some people, when they hear Illumos, think I’m talking about a new type of lamps. When I talk about *BSD, they think I’m talking about "nerdy" stuff. But as soon as I mention Solaris, their eyes widen because, in their imagination, it represents stability and security par excellence. So welcome OmniOS!However, I have a series of issues that are limiting my testing/deployment: 1) No problem on Hetzner physical hosts – both in ipv4 and ipv6. I just need to configure the global zone with a /72 IP (instead of /64) and assign another /72 to the interface that will be assigned to the zones, enabling routing. It works; Hetzner accepts this routed setup, a dynamic I have already encountered and tested successfully on FreeBSD. 2) Hetzner VPS "cloud" servers: The Virtio-SCSI supported by Illumos is 1af4:1004, while the Virtio SCSI controller at Hetzner is: Red Hat, Inc. Virtio 1.0 SCSI [1af4:1048] (rev 01). This means that OmniOS VMs cannot boot. I reported this in the OmniOS IRC channel, and they confirmed the incompatibility. It shouldn’t be hard to adapt/create the driver, but personally, I am not able to, so I’m stuck. 3) It runs well on Netcup, and everything works fine in ipv4, but I am encountering issues (the same ones I had with FreeBSD) with ipv6. It seems that Netcup doesn’t like that type of routing, so I have to assign ipv6 to the main interface, using shared routing. It doesn’t make me jump for joy. Also, in this case, there seem to be problems (no issues from the global zone, but from other zones, I can ping Google, but there are reachability issues with other hosts. I am investigating; I remember having the same issue on FreeBSD, but I don’t remember if/how I solved it).The experiments will continue in the coming days.<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Illumos</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OmniOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Hetzner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Hetzner</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Netcup" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Netcup</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/ipv6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ipv6</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Networking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Networking</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/IT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IT</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/SysAdmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SysAdmin</a>

Toasterson<a href="https://mastodon.online/@bexcran" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bexcran</a> cc <a href="https://bsd.network/@dexter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dexter</a> We currently have a PR in review for OpenIndiana <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/bHyve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bHyve</a> where it looks like for at least one contributor that CSM has been completely dropped upstream in <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freebsd</a> can somebody you know confirm this? Or should we get different sources? <a href="https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/20086" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/20086</a><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#illumos</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/omnios" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#omnios</a>

Stefano MarinelliJust finished a call with a colleague. We had to simulate a live workload on Alpine Linux. I took a VM, installed OmniOS (the closest ISO I had), installed zadm, and created a zone. My colleague, astonished: "It's easier and faster to install OmniOS and Alpine Linux inside it than to install a Linux distribution and Alpine Linux inside - both with LXC and in a VM."K.I.S.S.<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OmniOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/AlpineLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AlpineLinux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/IllumOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IllumOS</a>

joany<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/omnios" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#omnios</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/smartos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#smartos</a> Is it even possible to do usb-passtrough to a zone? I have read alot of dokuments and blog posts about pcie passthrough

Michael Dexteroccambsd.sh is close to the src and allows you to create custom/minimal systems, with optional boot image outputpropagate.sh allows you to create custom/minimal systems with packages base, with optional boot image outputimagine.sh allows you to image OccamBSD, Propagate, and upstream <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a>, <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/OmniOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOS</a>, <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Debian</a>, and <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/RouterOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RouterOS</a> images, mirroring some, and create Windows imagessideload.sh allows you to push your current FreeBSD configuration to one of the above-generated fresh installationsrc.local.sh allows you to best-effort idempotently configure basic aspects of a systemtl:dr: I never want to see a 1980’s-style installer again

Michael DexterThe recording of the August 8th, 2024 <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/bhyve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bhyve</a> Production User Call is up:<a href="https://youtu.be/GbwDm70InOs" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/GbwDm70InOs</a>We discussed generating jail.conf files, virtio-fs surprises, NoVNC updates, TMPe fundraising, bumping the <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/OmniOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OmniOS</a> vNIC count to 16, NVDIMM pass-through to VMs, ideas for a packaged VM repository, package caching, a bhyve Packer driver, <a href="https://bsd.network/@EuroBSDCon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@EuroBSDCon</a>, the <a href="https://mastodon.social/@openzfs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@openzfs</a> User and Developer Summit, and more!"Don't forget to slam those Like and Subscribe buttons."

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