#OSAID

Open Source Business Alliance🔍 Etikettenschwindel? Viele KI-Modelle werden als „Open Source“ beworben. Aber wann ist eine KI wirklich „open“?✅ Die <a href="https://social.opensource.org/@osi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@osi</a> hat sich mit dieser Frage beschäftigt und eine Open Source AI Definition (OSAID) entwickelt, die wir unterstützen.📂 Ein zentraler Punkt: Zugänglichkeit der Trainingsdaten. Denn nur wenn nachvollziehbar ist, wie ein Modell gelernt hat, kann von echter Offenheit die Rede sein.👉 <a href="https://osb-alliance.de/featured/osba-osaid" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://osb-alliance.de/featured/osba-osaid</a><a href="https://social.osb-alliance.de/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://social.osb-alliance.de/tags/OpenSourceAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSourceAI</a> <a href="https://social.osb-alliance.de/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a> <a href="https://social.osb-alliance.de/tags/DigitaleSouver%C3%A4nit%C3%A4t" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DigitaleSouveränität</a> <a href="https://social.osb-alliance.de/tags/KI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KI</a> <a href="https://social.osb-alliance.de/tags/OpenData" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenData</a>

Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:I've had concerns for a while about the direction the <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OSI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSI</a> has been going with AI for a while. The publishing of the <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a> weakens the <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OpenSourceDefinition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSourceDefinition</a>.I'm not a member but the definition does require community participation in terms of the licences we choose and how we advocate for Open Source.The recent board elections showed a disturbing pattern of obfuscation. We need to be able to trust Organisations that are meant to safeguard what Open source is.

Jordan Maris 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 #NAFODelighted to see MEP's taking up the fight against <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Meta</a>'s <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/Llama" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Llama</a> <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/OpenWashing" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#OpenWashing</a>, and referencing the <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#OSAID</a> as a potential solution. The <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/OSI" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#OSI</a> will keep fighting Open washing in Europe and around the world! 💪 🇪🇺 <a href="https://www.euractiv.com/section/tech/news/club-of-meps-demand-strict-ai-act-open-source-definition/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no">https://www.euractiv.com/section/tech/news/club-of-meps-demand-strict-ai-act-open-source-definition/</a>

Holger Dyroff<a href="https://freeradical.zone/@johnmark" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@johnmark</a> what do you expect when you ask for action? OSI has pushed out OSAID - which demands full transparency- but is still met with the almost impossible demand for only free data behind AI models. While Red Gat execs now call Llama 4 OSS which is obviously wrong. IMHO we must opposed open washing and embrace <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/osaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#osaid</a> now

Mark DingemanseInteresting to see <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/OSI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSI</a> manufacture a problem about people reaching out to others, saying they should rather do this "on our forums where we provide community management and moderation support" <a href="https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/1014603/c791efdd5a4ca47c/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/1014603/c791efdd5a4ca47c/</a>Last I checked (during the <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a> snafu Sep/Oct 2024), the OSI forums were so tightly moderated that no sane and open discussion could take place anymore. The crackdown was very effective in letting reform-minded community members know their contributions weren't welcome1/2

Brett Sheffield (he/him)The <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OSI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSI</a> 's one job is to protect and promote <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> and the Open Source Definition (OSD). Undermining that definition with the weakened <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a> has alienated much of the Open Source community, myself included.I had hoped that might be turned around, but this year's reform candidates were likely the last chance to see that happen.Watching the OSI promoting corporate sponsors was concerning, but this year's blatant election manipulation is the final straw.

Brett Sheffield (he/him)They say to never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.Unfortunately this year's <a href="https://social.opensource.org/@osi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@osi</a> board elections go way beyond that point.The current Executive Director is leading <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OSI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSI</a> in a direction the community don't want to follow with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a>. By changing the rules as you go along in this year's election to exclude candidates who want to reform the OSI you have destroyed any remaining trust.You shat the bed. It's time to change the sheets.

Bradley M. Kuhn<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@pchestek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@pchestek</a> Interesting. How does <a href="https://floss.social/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> Initiative gain standing to bring a false advertising claim? Is there an article on <a href="https://floss.social/tags/OSI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSI</a>'s site that explains this enforcement mechanism & plan in detail? (And apologies I missed it until now!)& is it on the <a href="https://floss.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a> roadmap to bring false advertising claims against companies who have products they're calling "open source AI"?If it is in the roadmap, I feel the community should have been told that during OSAID drafting.Cc: <a href="https://mastodon.social/@richardfontana" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@richardfontana</a>

Michael Downey 🧢:opensource: Interesting platform from <a href="https://floss.social/@bkuhn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bkuhn</a> & <a href="https://mastodon.social/@richardfontana" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@richardfontana</a> for the upcoming Open Source Initiative board election:1️⃣ Repeal the Open Source AI Definition (OSAID) 2️⃣ Adopt a process for formal review of previously approved licenses 3️⃣ Remove “code of silence” from Board Member Agreement 4️⃣ Directors should be allowed to use FOSS for Board activities:opensourceparrot: This would have my vote. What about you?<a href="https://floss.social/@bkuhn/114072400251670980" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://floss.social/@bkuhn/114072400251670980</a><a href="https://floss.social/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/OSI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSI</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FreeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeSoftware</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FLOSS</a>

Sam JohnstonIn any case, WTF is a California-based organisation like <a href="https://social.opensource.org/@osi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@osi</a> doing with a submarine GMT deadline? There's still absolutely no justification for this, except to censor the most important channel of all: elections.Were I eligible to run I'd have left it to the last minute too, to incorporate all available information like the <a href="https://mas.to/tags/FOSDEM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSDEM</a> revelation that they consider <a href="https://mas.to/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a> 1.0 "too restrictive" and want more corporations for 2.0 which will water <a href="https://mas.to/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AI</a> down EVEN MORE.<a href="https://chaos.social/@onepict" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@onepict</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/@dentangle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dentangle</a>

Brett Sheffield (he/him)In any process where you are talking about "stakeholders", if any of your stakeholders are not individual human beings, you need to think deeper.A corporation is never a stakeholder.The only reason to care about a corporation or other org is because of the real people that it might affect. The employees, perhaps. The customers, sometimes. *Those* are your stakeholders.If one of your "stakeholders" is a trillion dollar corporation, you really are on the wrong path.<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a>

maradoIf you're "late to the game" regarding the <a href="https://ciberlandia.pt/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a> <a href="https://ciberlandia.pt/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://ciberlandia.pt/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AI</a> definition from <a href="https://social.opensource.org/@osi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@osi</a> and what is the criticism to it all about, this blog post from <a href="https://mas.to/@sj" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@sj</a>, while specifically directed to <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozillaofficial" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mozillaofficial</a>, has a good enough amount of linkdump to be clarifying:<a href="https://samjohnston.org/2024/12/18/a-forgotten-manifesto-mozilla-betrays-its-own-values-on-open-source-ai/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://samjohnston.org/2024/12/18/a-forgotten-manifesto-mozilla-betrays-its-own-values-on-open-source-ai/</a>

Michael Downey 🧢🤡 The absurdity continues::opensource: <a href="https://floss.social/tags/OSI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSI</a> management disqualifies reform-minded board candidate <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@lfaraone" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@lfaraone</a> for not meeting an apparent candidacy deadline according to a time zone that was "conveniently" undocumented.<a href="https://blog.luke.wf/2025/02/im-running-for-osi-board-maybe.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://blog.luke.wf/2025/02/im-running-for-osi-board-maybe.html</a><a href="https://floss.social/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FreeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeSoftware</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FLOSS</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a>

Parafestas Nikos<a href="https://mas.to/@sj" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@sj</a> Thank you for sharing the article. My stance, though, remains the same. A program ("AI" included) is either free or not free. This binary approach helped <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freesoftware</a> to keep it's meaning. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a> and, because of it <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#opensource</a> now as well, are being exploited by big tech in order to deceive users and governments (who are willing to be fooled - like the EU), that their systems are transparent. In my view, Open Weight Definition doesn't seem to hep this struggle for clarity.

OpensourcewerkenWanneer het niet mogelijk is om de trainingsdata te opensourcen, is het volgens de <a href="https://social.overheid.nl/tags/osaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#osaid</a> voor opensource verplicht om te vermelden hoe de trainingsdata is opgebouwd zodat je anderen toch in staat stelt om een AI-model hetzelfde te trainen. <a href="https://social.overheid.nl/tags/fosdem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fosdem</a> <a href="https://social.overheid.nl/tags/fosdem25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fosdem25</a>

OpensourcewerkenDe open source AI definitie kort zich af als <a href="https://social.overheid.nl/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a>. <a href="https://social.overheid.nl/tags/fosdem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fosdem</a> <a href="https://social.overheid.nl/tags/fosdem25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fosdem25</a>

Sebastian RaibleToday, we endorse the <a href="https://social.opensource.org/@osi" class="u-url mention">@osi</a>‘s <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#OSAID</a>. In an environment of increased open-washing, and at times where finding consensus becomes harder, the OSI has shown leadership that engages voices from academia, industry, and society. And while there are questions, the OSAID is a platform unifying discussion and providing space for discourse. I am happy that I can announce our endorsement today. Thank you to all involved. <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ai</a> <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#opensource</a><a href="https://eupolicy.social/@apell" class="u-url mention">@apell</a> <a href="https://eupolicy.social/@apell/113916590596945779" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no">https://eupolicy.social/@apell/113916590596945779</a>

APELLToday, we endorse <a href="https://social.opensource.org/@osi" class="u-url mention">@osi</a>'s <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#OpenSource</a> AI Definition The OS ecosystem understands: being popular means being responsible. Trust is earned – <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#AI</a> needs to continue earning it. For decades, OS has provided answers to questions of vendor <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/independence" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#independence</a>, <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/transparency" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#transparency</a>, <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/reproducibility" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#reproducibility</a>, the ability to <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/study" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#study</a> and <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/learn" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#learn</a> from tech. The <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#OSAID</a> project has taken on responsibility & <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/leadership" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#leadership</a>, fostered open exchange that distinguishes OS community from closed, proprietary approaches <a href="https://apell.info/2025/01/30/apell-endorses-the-open-source-initiatives-open-source-ai-definition/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no">https://apell.info/2025/01/30/apell-endorses-the-open-source-initiatives-open-source-ai-definition/</a>

Jordan Maris 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 #NAFOAnd yes: this is a difficult question, and one the <a href="https://social.opensource.org/@osi" class="u-url mention">@osi</a> has been trying to answer for some time. The <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#OSAID</a> 1.0 may not be perfect, but it does help us clearly combat openwashing.

Parafestas Nikos<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OSAID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSAID</a> [1] is extremely weak, as it undermines the very principles of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freesoftware</a> [2] Now an even worse "Open Weight Definition" [3] is in draft as a reminder that nothing is permissive enough.

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