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infinite love ⴳ<p>one approach is to just say "well, plain JSON consumers should just stop being so naive". a valid approach, but not very robust!</p><p>our goal is to preserve the semantic boundary between different resources but still allow merging those resources naively (as JSON objects rather than as <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JSONLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JSONLD</span></a> graphs).</p><p>instead of saying that a term will *always* mean the same thing in the entire document, we want to allow the same term to be used in different contexts across semantic boundaries (resources)...</p><p>6/?</p>
infinite love ⴳ<p>we have *some* tools to deal with this in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/jsonld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jsonld</span></a>. we can "type-scope" so that an Activity.actor uses a certain definition, and a Movie.actor uses a certain definition, but this requires us to say ahead-of-time that `Movie` will always mean a schema.org `Movie`. it also won't help us redefine protected terms, since "type-scoped" terms don't override protection. only "property-scoped" terms do. but we can't use "property-scoped" terms because that requires an explicit semantic range.</p><p>4/?</p>
infinite love ⴳ<p>let's demo this with a simple case. say you want to `tag` something that is a `Movie` described by schema.org. the `Movie` declares that it has an `actor` who performed in it.</p><p>this is redefining the term `actor` as defined at the top-level by <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/activitystreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>activitystreams</span></a> -- where `actor` means who performed an `Activity`, not who performed in a `Movie`.</p><p>if the activitystreams context was protected, then this would be a fatal error for any <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/jsonld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jsonld</span></a> validator. you cannot be sure which `actor` was meant!</p><p>3/?</p>
infinite love ⴳ<p>i'm not 100% sure about this but i am starting to think that the way <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/jsonld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jsonld</span></a> context declarations propagate by default is generally an anti-pattern</p><p>the problem is when you cross a semantic boundary, which happens most often due to naively dereferencing and embedding an entire resource ("inlining", "hydration"). it's especially likely to be an issue when you are using one or more protected contexts (where terms can't be redefined later).</p><p>1/?</p>
FenTigerAnother nail in the coffin for #<a class="" href="https://zotum.net/search?tag=JsonLD" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JsonLD</a>:<br><br><pre><code>{<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"id": "https://zotum.net/conversation/235e8736-1b3e-4d7f-ab9e-3d49f04ecda7",<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"orderedItems": [<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;{<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"type": "Add",<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"object": {<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"type": "Create",<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"object": {<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"type": "Note",<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"id": "https://zotum.net/item/235e8736-1b3e-4d7f-ab9e-3d49f04ecda7",<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"published": "2025-02-25T20:28:33Z",<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[... original version of post ... ]<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;},<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;},<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;},<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;{<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"type": "Add",<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"object": {<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"type": "Update",<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"object": {<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"type": "Note",<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"id": "https://zotum.net/item/235e8736-1b3e-4d7f-ab9e-3d49f04ecda7",<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"published": "2025-02-25T20:28:33Z",<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"updated": "2025-02-25T20:29:03Z",<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[... edited version of post ...]<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;},</code></pre><br>That's a post that I edited shortly after I first made it. The corresponding conversation container contains both the original Create, and an Update with the changes. This means that the embedded Note object appears twice, with different contents, but with <em>the same ID</em>.<br><br>JSON-LD processing will kind of squish them together into the same object that contains both the original and the new <code>content</code> etc. Handling this as JSON-LD will mean recognising the high level structure of it first, and then iterating over the <code>orderedItems</code> and processing them individually, rather than trying to treat the whole thing as a single JSON-LD message.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://zotum.net/search?tag=ActivityPubDev" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ActivityPubDev</a>
Marie Muller<p>📣 Appel à candidatures <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SemWebPro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SemWebPro</span></a> !</p><p>La conférence <a href="https://semweb.pro" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">semweb.pro</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> est LA journée annuelle de présentations et de rencontres dédiées au <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/webS%C3%A9mantique" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webSémantique</span></a> dans le monde professionnel 🤓</p><p>Elle a lieu chaque année à Paris 📍</p><p>Le comité de programme souhaite intégrer de nouveaux membres ! Vous nous rejoignez ?</p><p>Candidature avant le 30 avril à contact@semweb.pro 📧</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/semweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>semweb</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/websem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>websem</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linkeddata" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linkeddata</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linkedopendata" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linkedopendata</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/knowledgegraph" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>knowledgegraph</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/thesaurus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>thesaurus</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ontology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ontology</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/RDF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RDF</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SPARQL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SPARQL</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SHACL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SHACL</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OWL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OWL</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JSONLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JSONLD</span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.logilab.fr/@semwebpro" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>semwebpro</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.logilab.fr/@logilab" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>logilab</span></a></span></p>
Marcel Otto<p>🚀 New Releases! Along with the roadmap update, I'm happy to announce:</p><p>- JSON-LD.ex v1.0 with JSON-LD 1.1 support<br>- RDF.ex v2.1 with rdf:JSON literal support<br>- Grax v0.6 with a new JSON type and support for ordered lists based on rdf:List</p><p>These updates lay groundwork for the DID implementation and future developments. Please refer to the respective CHANGELOGs for a comprehensive list of the changes.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/rdf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rdf</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/jsonld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jsonld</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/elixir" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>elixir</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/myelixirstatus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>myelixirstatus</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>8/</p><p>As it is now, I think the 'discoverable' flag is broken.</p><p>And, I think the whole user-experience (UX) around the 'discoverable' flag is poor.</p><p>And, I think Fediverse software treating a 'false' value for 'discoverable' as "not discoverable" (rather than "not discoverable" or "no choice made") has hugely negative consequences for the user-experience (UX) of the Fediverse</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityStreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityStreams</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Discoverable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discoverable</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDevs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseUX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseUX</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JSONLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JSONLD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>7/</p><p>So now I have to DM Ben to tell him that his 'discoverable' flag is set to false</p><p>He (just like everyone else I contacted) will likely not even be aware that the 'discoverable' flag exists</p><p>And (just like everyone else I contacted) wished it wasn't set to false</p><p>And then (just like everyone else I contacted) struggle to find where he can set it to true</p><p>And then set it</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityStreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityStreams</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Discoverable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discoverable</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDevs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseUX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseUX</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JSONLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JSONLD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>6/</p><p>As it is now, the 'discoverable' flag seems broken to me.</p><p>Because 'false' doesn't actually mean 'false'.</p><p>'false' (in practice) means both "not discoverable" and "no choice made". And this is a very unfortunate situation —</p><p>Because the idea of a 'discoverable' flag is a good idea — but this problem with the meaning of 'false' and the UX consequences a big deal.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityStreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityStreams</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Discoverable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discoverable</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDevs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseUX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseUX</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JSONLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JSONLD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>5/</p><p>JSON and has a 'null'. That could have been used for the 'discoverable' flag.</p><p>We could have had so that: </p><p>'discoverable' set to 'true' meant that the user explicitly chose to be discoverable.</p><p>'discoverable' set to 'false' meant that the user explicitly chose to not be discoverable.</p><p>And 'discoverable' set to 'null' meant that the user has not explicitly made a choice.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityStreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityStreams</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Discoverable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discoverable</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDevs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseUX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseUX</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JSONLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JSONLD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>4/</p><p>With other conceptions, this lack of choice — this lack of setting a value — isn't as muddled.</p><p>With optional-types (which are also called "option-types" and "maybe-types") when something isn't assigned a value it is represented as 'nothing' / 'none'.</p><p>In relation-databases, this is represented as 'null'.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityStreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityStreams</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Discoverable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discoverable</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDevs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseUX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseUX</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JSONLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JSONLD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>3/</p><p>As it is right now, the 'discoverable' flag does not communicate whether the user actually made a 'true' or 'false' choice.</p><p>If it is 'true' we know they made a choice.</p><p>But if it is 'false' it either means the user chose 'false' or the user didn't make a choice. BUT WE CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityStreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityStreams</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Discoverable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discoverable</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDevs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseUX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseUX</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JSONLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JSONLD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>2/</p><p>There are a HUGE number of people who (unknown to them) have their 'discoverable' flags set to 'false' who —</p><p>№2:</p><p>Do NOT know that they have a 'discoverable' flag —</p><p>And do NOT know that their 'discoverable' flag was automagically set to 'false' —</p><p>And do not understand the consequence of having their 'discoverable' flag set to false.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityStreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityStreams</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Discoverable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discoverable</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDevs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseUX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseUX</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JSONLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JSONLD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>1/</p><p>A problem with the 'discoverable' flag (in Mastodon and any other Fediverse software that added it) is —</p><p>There are a HUGE number of people who (unknown to them) have their 'discoverable' flags set to 'false' who —</p><p>№1:</p><p>Did NOT set their 'discoverable' to 'false' themselves.</p><p>Mastodon assigned it for them without ever asking them before hand and getting consent.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityStreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityStreams</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Discoverable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discoverable</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDevs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseUX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseUX</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JSONLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JSONLD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a></p>
Licho<p>Ok, I can officially say that I don't get <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/jsonLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jsonLD</span></a>. <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> uses it, <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a> is built on it. But it doesnt actually give any boost in interoperability. The applications themself must be written with interoperability in mind. It's just fancy aliasing mechanism, am I wrong about it? Maybe that's what it's supposed to be? Was I wrong expecting it to be anything more? It doesn't do any heavy lifting besides the aliasing. It only serves as a reminder to look up the docs of a protocol. You could just as well just get the protocol spec out and it would be equivalent. What's the point?</p>
Donald Hobern<p>Planning <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/FAIR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FAIR</span></a> packaging of <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/plant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>plant</span></a> <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/phenomics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>phenomics</span></a> <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/ResearchData" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ResearchData</span></a> - our current focus is on <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/ROCrate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ROCrate</span></a> with <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/JsonLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JsonLD</span></a> to describe domain concepts using <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/MIAPPE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MIAPPE</span></a>, likely <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/SSN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSN</span></a> for sensors, <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/ProvO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ProvO</span></a> (or just <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/ISA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ISA</span></a>) for provenance, public <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/vocabularies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>vocabularies</span></a> for each partner's measurement types, etc. and lots of image and CSV files.</p><p><a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/MachineLearning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MachineLearning</span></a> is a key use for the <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/data" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>data</span></a>.</p><p>Should we also be looking at <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/Croissant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Croissant</span></a>?</p><p>If so, does anyone have experience of combining Croissant and RO-Crate?</p><p>Any insights welcomed.</p>
naturzukunft<p>is there a json-ld compact "expert" in my bubble ?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/rdf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rdf</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/jsonld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jsonld</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/lod" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>lod</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>activitypub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/activitypubdev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>activitypubdev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/rdfpub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rdfpub</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>For previous threads on Fediverse Labelers see:</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/@reiver/113825206793984884" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mastodon.social/@reiver/113825</span><span class="invisible">206793984884</span></a></p><p>And:</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/@reiver/113822862806430217" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mastodon.social/@reiver/113822</span><span class="invisible">862806430217</span></a></p><p>.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityStreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityStreams</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPubProfile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPubProfile</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDevs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseLabeler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseLabeler</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseLabelers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseLabelers</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseLabels" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseLabels</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JSONLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JSONLD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenWeb</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSocial</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a></p>
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:<p>Fediverse Labeler update:</p><p>I have been working on site that anyone can use to see Fediverse Labelers in action.</p><p>I am hoping to get it done soon. (Maybe by the weekend or next week.)</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityStreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityStreams</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPubProfile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPubProfile</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeSo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDev</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediDevs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseLabeler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseLabeler</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseLabelers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseLabelers</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediverseLabels" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediverseLabels</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JSONLD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JSONLD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenWeb</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSocial</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a></p>