#Norway to be ‘fully integrated’ member of #EU’s #securecommunications, industry minister says: Euractiv sat down with Norwegian Minister #CecilieMyrseth, responsible for space policy, to discuss Oslo joining the #EU’s pooled satellite capacity programme #Govsatcom and #IRIS2. https://www.euractiv.com/section/tech/interview/norway-to-be-fully-integrated-member-of-eus-secure-communications-industry-minister-says/?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=dlvr.it
I don't follow this space very closely. Is IRIS the best Starlink alternative for the EU?
#Europe already is working on their own system, called #IRIS2. Application focus apparently already broadened from government/corporate use to B2C.
https://defence-industry-space.ec.europa.eu/eu-space/iris2-secure-connectivity_en
While French #Eutelsat is building a consumer system with Airbus. They recently announced world’s first 5G non-terrestrial network connection (straight to phone, no terminal required), leveraging #OneWeb LEO satellites.
»Konkurrenz für Musks #Starlink - #Eutelsat testet #5G per #Satellit«
Na endlich. Hoffen wir, dass es reicht, um Musk zumindest aus der #EU Telko-Infrastruktur heraus zu halten.
»[Dies] ist Teil des knapp elf Milliarden Euro schweren Iris²-Investitionsprogramms. In dessen Rahmen sollen knapp 300 Trabanten in niedrige oder mittlere Umlaufbahnen geschossen werden.«
https://kyivindependent.com/us-threatens-to-shut-off-starlink-if-ukraine-wont-sign-minerals-deal-sources-tell-reuters/ in #italy #mafia also behaves similarity, blackmailing the weak at their weakest. #Postfascist prime minister Giorgia #Meloni is a good friend of #musk and according to rumors will finance #Stalink with public funds, increasing national vulnerability to #Trump plans, instead of backing #EU #Iris2 which would be controlled also by Italy. Ultimately fascists never act according to the real interests of their nation, but only oft their own power, despite what they promise.
@MissConstrue if we do not like this we need to ditch #X, ditch #twitter, dump our #swasticars, stop using #genAI and above all support development of Starlink alternatives like #IRIS2, while discussing the importance of these steps with people we meet and while praising, fostering and funding any initiatives that are built on honesty, compassion and inclusive dialogue. Not looking away, not giving in.
@Saramo Eikös tässä ollut niin pahasti käynyt, että Italian Meloni kävi Mar-A-Lagossa suutelemassa sormusta, ja lunnaiksi vei mukanaan lupauksen vetää Italia pois IRIS2 hankkeesta?
Starting in 
2025, at least two #European 
launch startups (#IsarAerospace and #RocketFactory Augsburg) expect to offer more choices for both institutional and commercial customers. The field will continue to widen toward the close of the decade, with #MaiaSpace, #Latitude, #HyImpulse, #HyPrSpace, #Orbex, #PLDSpace, and #Skyrora all working toward an inaugural flight of their respective vehicles. https://europeanspaceflight.com/arianegroup-already-working-to-secure-iris2-launch-contract
@chiamaluca Anche il GovSatCom europeo non è una prospettiva lontana. #IRIS2
@francal @politica "è compatibile con il progetto #IRIS2."
Come se si trattasse di una questione di compatibilità tecnica e non di destinazione dei fondi pubblici europei, di posti di lavoro e investimenti per Leonardo e Telespazio.
Ma questo è un buon promemoria del fatto che GovSatComm non è una prospettiva lontana. Grazie per il link a @euractiv la loro copertura multilingue sulla politica europea merita un pubblico più ampio.
« #Italian gov’s possible adoption of #Starlink satellite comms system would b politicl & economic error, domestic & #EU legislators have warned, as gov doubled down on decision & #Musk revelled in the debate
If deal→signed, #Italy→1st EU country 2 formally engage w/ Musk’s #SpaceX. But would raise ?? abt its alignment w/ #European strategic priorities, including setup of EU’s #IRIS2 constellation, while potentially costing Italy jobs, sovereignty, & strategic autonomy»
»Im Unterschied zu #Starlink wird #Iris2 drei verschiedene Umlaufbahnen nutzen: Mehr als 6000 Kilometer von der Erde entfernt (medium-earth orbit, MEO), mehr als 500 Kilometer (low-earth orbit, #LEO) und bis zu 400 Kilometer (low LEO). [
]Diese „Multi-Orbit“-Lösung erlaubt es […] mit weniger Satelliten eine vergleichbare Leistung zu erzielen[
].«
#Starlink planlegger å ha 42 000 satellitter i operasjon om få år, kinesiske #Qianfan skal ha 38 000 satellitter og #Iris2 er EUs plan for å skyte opp 290 satellitter innen 2030 
Kampen om verdensrommet og tilgang til satelittbasert internett tilspisser seg og det er temaet i årets siste «Ukens notater». God Jul! https://matsbs.com/ukens-notater-16/
Europa muss groß denken, um nicht klein zu enden - auch im Weltall. Deswegen wird jetzt eine europäische Alternative zu Starlink von Elon Musk entwickelt: #IRIS2. So geht #EUSovereignty & #EUVision! #EUSpace #EUDefence #PulseofEurope
https://www.europesays.com/1699939/ European Union to take on Elon Musk’s Starlink using IRIS-2, their take on satellite connectivity – Firstpost #ElonMusk #ElonMusk’sStarlink #europe #EuropeIRIS2 #EuropeanSpaceAgency #EuropeanUnion #IRISSatelliteConnectivity #IRIS2 #Starlink
Out of the other media coverage Politico got it almost right, because they clearly explain that #IRIS2 is not a competitor to #Starlink.
Their title (“Relax Elon — the EU isn’t an immediate threat to Starlink”) is still a bit manipulative, because it kind of ignores the fact that Elon does indeed run a project - the SpaceX #Starshield - for which IRIS2 is a direct competitor. But later on in the article they do explain it.
But here’s a paragraph that I find much more valuable because I myself also used this analogy as well:
However, the bloc’s earlier space programs — such as GPS-alternative Galileo and Earth observation system Copernicus — also attracted similar criticism, but are now considered world-beating space infrastructure.
My own point was that media has a tendency to moan about everything without really digging into the essence of the problem. When Galileo was rolled out, the media moaned “why own GNSS when there’s free GPS”. Now when Russia is jamming GPS in EU, everyone is again moaning “why EU isn’t doing anything with it”. Well, they actually do and both Galileo and IRIS2 are direct responses to these challenges.
https://www.politico.eu/article/relax-elon-musk-eu-threat-starlink-iris2-broadband-internet/
great name too 
"Europe’s Starlink competitor IRIS² satellites up by 2030 to provide secure connectivity to governmental users as well as private companies and European citizens." https://www.theverge.com/2024/12/16/24322358/iris2-starlink-rival-europe-date-cost #starlink #Iris2
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Sicheres Satellitensystem: Kommission bringt die Einführung von IRIS2 voran
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.. Im Rahmen dieser Partnerschaft wird das neue System der Europäischen Union entwickelt, eingeführt und betrieben. Das neue System für Resilienz, Interkonnektivität und Sicherheit per Satellit (IRIS2) ist eine multiorbitale Konstellation von 290 Satelliten."
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