Nemo_bis 🌈<p>What <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/OpenStreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenStreetMap</span></a> routing method would you use to draw a reasonably efficient route to visit a number of coordinates (dozens, hundreds of places)?</p><p><a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/OpenRouteService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenRouteService</span></a> is the only option mentioned in <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Track-drawing_websites" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tr</span><span class="invisible">ack-drawing_websites</span></a> .</p><p>For example: tour of 35 <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/Helsinki" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Helsinki</span></a> city <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/libraries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>libraries</span></a>. I did the track manually on <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/GraphHopper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GraphHopper</span></a> and imported it on <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/uMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>uMap</span></a>. Surely there's a better way?<br><a 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href="https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/helsinki-culture-tour_1191485#12/60.2286/24.8284" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/h</span><span class="invisible">elsinki-culture-tour_1191485#12/60.2286/24.8284</span></a></p>
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MITFAHR|DE|ZENTRALE<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://openbiblio.social/@awinkler" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>awinkler</span></a></span> for which region? For car only routing there exist several (<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/graphhopper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>graphhopper</span></a>, <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/osrm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>osrm</span></a>, <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/valhalla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>valhalla</span></a> ), for transit routing, data availability is still an issue. The <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/transitous" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>transitous</span></a> project is the largest free instance I‘m aware of. For smaller regions, you might self-host e.g. an <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OpenTripPlanner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenTripPlanner</span></a> or <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/MOTIS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MOTIS</span></a> instance <a href="https://transitous.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">transitous.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
karussell<p>Interesting discussion about bike routing in general and GraphHopper related stuff</p><p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42197754" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4</span><span class="invisible">2197754</span></a></p><p>including some impressive numbers from RideWithGPS like "Our total staff size is 32, of which 6 are full-time end user support"</p><p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42206360" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4</span><span class="invisible">2206360</span></a></p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OpenStreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenStreetMap</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/GraphHopper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GraphHopper</span></a></p>
karussell<p>GraphHopper Routing Engine 10.0 Released</p><p><a href="https://www.graphhopper.com/blog/2024/11/05/graphhopper-routing-engine-10-0-released/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">graphhopper.com/blog/2024/11/0</span><span class="invisible">5/graphhopper-routing-engine-10-0-released/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OpenStreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenStreetMap</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/GraphHopper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GraphHopper</span></a></p>
Nemo_bis 🌈<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.well.com/@ianb" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ianb</span></a></span> Meanwhile <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/GraphHopper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GraphHopper</span></a> lets you decide between leisurely walk and hike, but gently warns you that the hike involves 15 km of climbing of which 5 rather dangerous.</p>
dorotaC<p>I just discovered <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/brouter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>brouter</span></a> .<br>It's a routing engine that can use <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/openstreetmap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openstreetmap</span></a> data and your own preferences for <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/cycling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cycling</span></a> roads if you want.</p><p>Certainly beats <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/graphhopper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>graphhopper</span></a> on the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/OSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OSM</span></a> website.</p><p><a href="https://brouter.de/brouter-web/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">brouter.de/brouter-web/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Is there a GUI for <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> ?</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/bike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bike</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/bicycle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bicycle</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/maps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>maps</span></a></p>
scy<p>Hey <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OpenStreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenStreetMap</span></a> peeps, how can I debug this strange routing behavior?</p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/GraphHopper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GraphHopper</span></a> & <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OSRM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OSRM</span></a> make a simple left turn (correct), while <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Valhalla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Valhalla</span></a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OsmAnd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OsmAnd</span></a> act as if there's a turn restriction and make a U-turn instead.</p><p>This is at 51.73201° N, 9.97389° E, coming from north on B3 and going to the east on A7.</p><p>There's been a construction site here a few weeks ago, so my first suspicion was stale data, but even with OsmAnd Live it still does it.</p><p>I can't see any restrictions in the data. Ideas?</p>
Reinout van Schouwen<p>Why doesn't <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bird.makeup/users/duckduckgo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>duckduckgo</span></a></span> have cycling directions on their maps, like every other navigation app? Only having the choice between walking or driving really decreases its value. <br>Fortunately <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/GraphHopper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GraphHopper</span></a> works reasonably well...</p>
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