Nonilex<p>Cooper: Only have ~30 docs that are relevant vs 500 that have been withheld based in part on <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeliberativeProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privilege</span></a> </p><p>The final factor is harm to the govt, which I think is for the government to show. They haven't filed affidavits or explained why disclosure would harm process, etc</p><p>That's it from Cooper on deliberative process. </p><p>Guynn up to respond.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
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Nonilex<p>After Cooper argues that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeliberativeProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privilege</span></a> doesn't apply given <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>misconduct</span></a> by the govt, he turns to another exception: the "compelling need" exception.</p><p>That squarely overrides the invocation of the privilege here, he tells Judge <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a>.</p><p>Cooper: This discovery is relevant & important. Govt hasn't pointed to alternative sources of info. There's been no substance produced of information that's key & critical here.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Guynn: Think would need to brief that. But I don't want to concede that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/intent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>intent</span></a> is at issue.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a> asks attorney for <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> to come up & address the "government misconduct" exception to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeliberativeProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privilege</span></a>.</p><p>[Because the privilege is not absolute & can be overcome by a showing of govt <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>misconduct</span></a>]</p><p>Up for Abrego Garcia this time is Jonathan Cooper</p><p>Cooper: From the beginning this has been a case about govt misconduct</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a>: Intent to facilitate, intent to comply w/my order.</p><p>Guynn: When you refer to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/intent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>intent</span></a>, what are you referring to?</p><p>Xinis: Can give you cases I've been thinking about. There's a proposition that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeliberativeProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privilege</span></a> doesn't really apply when intent is at issue </p><p>Gives hypo: re discrimination claim by fired employee. if decision making is privileged, can never get to the issue of wrongful termination.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Guynn: That's why there are so many privileged documents here that's why hard to ID document custodians, etc. </p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a>: Almost impossible to determine from the log on what basis you're claiming attorney client privilege. Eg, if you have 18 people CC'ed on an email. without more info, I can't assess.<br>I don't believe the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeliberativeProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privilege</span></a> is as broad in this case because the govt's intent is at issue.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Rossman: If I gave your honor what I have of meaningful <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/discovery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>discovery</span></a>, it'd be nothing</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a> announces that she wants to move on to discussion of the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeliberativeProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privilege</span></a>. Wants to talk about the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> on that, then move the hearing under seal to discuss further.</p><p>Guynn is up first to discuss. </p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
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