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Carl O.S. ©<p>Conversations, Cheogram y Monocles Chat están disponibles la G Play solo mediante pago. No sé si habrán otras aplicaciones que estén a la altura y sean de descarga gratuita allí. ¿Conocen alguna?</p><p><a href="https://lile.cl/tags/ConversationsIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConversationsIM</span></a> <a href="https://lile.cl/tags/Cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cheogram</span></a> <a href="https://lile.cl/tags/MonoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MonoclesChat</span></a> <a href="https://lile.cl/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
F-Droid<p>This week in <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FDroid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FDroid</span></a> (TWIF) is live:</p><p>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Nextcloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nextcloud</span></a> store shenanigans<br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cheogram</span></a> in Space-s<br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> and <a href="https://floss.social/tags/ArcaneChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ArcaneChat</span></a> fork<br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FluffyChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FluffyChat</span></a> feature full<br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Tachiyomi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tachiyomi</span></a> successor <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Kahon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kahon</span></a><br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Inure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Inure</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/reproducible" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>reproducible</span></a><br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/PasswordStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PasswordStore</span></a> fork<br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/ReplicantOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ReplicantOS</span></a> and <a href="https://floss.social/tags/NGI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NGI</span></a><br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/NewPipe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NewPipe</span></a> out of the 360p jail<br>+ 12 new apps<br>+ 195 updates</p><p>Go beyond clouds in <a href="https://f-droid.org/2025/05/15/twif.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">f-droid.org/2025/05/15/twif.ht</span><span class="invisible">ml</span></a></p>
rtn<p>Finally finished moving all my two factor authentication accounts to TOTP app and can now uninstall Authy!</p><p>You can run it in Delta Chat, Monocles and Cheogram. It works nicely on multi-device and therefore codes are backed up and available across devices.</p><p>Some of the services that work fine:</p><p>- codeberg<br>- mastodon<br>- github<br>- npm<br>- microsoft</p><p><a href="https://webxdc.org/apps/#rtn-totp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">webxdc.org/apps/#rtn-totp</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/totp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>totp</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monocles</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cheogram</span></a></p>
Delta Chat<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://estradiol.city/@ity" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ity</span></a></span> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> is a shared spec and joint impelemntation with eg <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cheogram</span></a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monocles</span></a> ... It has nothing to do with proton. Webxdc apps are shared in a chat and run inside the messenger. Proton does not have a messenger. Webxdc apps work on all platforms that <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> messengers are released for, including <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@deltatouch" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>deltatouch</span></a></span> , an Ubuntu based phone. DeltaTouch runs all webxdc apps including the realtime p2p ones. <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@lk108" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>lk108</span></a></span> is doing an incredible job :)</p>
contrapunctus ✊🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mastodonmigration</span></a></span> Obligatory reminder that <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> relies on a centralized and proprietary server, and does not belong here.</p><p>Users of <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> and <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Threema</span></a> etc should use <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> instead, which is <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/FreeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreeSoftware</span></a> and federated.</p><p>Users - check out <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Quicksy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Quicksy</span></a> (Android and iOS), <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Prav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Prav</span></a>, <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Conversations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Conversations</span></a>, <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cheogram</span></a>, <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/MonoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MonoclesChat</span></a>, <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a>, <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Movim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Movim</span></a>, <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Monal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monal</span></a>...</p><p>Self-hosters, check out <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Snikket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Snikket</span></a>.</p><p>Learn more with this user's guide -<br><a href="https://contrapunctus.codeberg.page/the-quick-and-easy-guide-to-xmpp.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">contrapunctus.codeberg.page/th</span><span class="invisible">e-quick-and-easy-guide-to-xmpp.html</span></a></p>
Hippo 🍉<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.spejset.org/@samuel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>samuel</span></a></span> yes! You mean emoji reactions right? <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Conversations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Conversations</span></a> (the "flagship' Android client so to speak) added support for them recently</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Quicksy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Quicksy</span></a> as well as downstream clients like <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cheogram</span></a> and <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monocles</span></a> should be having it too (I believe Monocles actually implemented support before Conversations did)</p><p><a href="https://gultsch.social/@daniel/113338241811381298" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">gultsch.social/@daniel/1133382</span><span class="invisible">41811381298</span></a></p>
contrapunctus ✊🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rysiek</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kkarhan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://circumstances.run/@agturcz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>agturcz</span></a></span> An awful lot of people say they've used <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> "a while back". But they're often unaware of the best of XMPP, and have an unfairly negative view of it.</p><p>Did you happen to try...</p><p>...<a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Snikket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Snikket</span></a> for hosting?<br><a href="https://snikket.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">snikket.org</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>...apps like <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Quicksy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Quicksy</span></a> and <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Prav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Prav</span></a> which use phone numbers for easy onboarding, same as <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a> or <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a>?<br><a href="https://quicksy.im" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">quicksy.im</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br><a href="https://prav.app" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">prav.app</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>...featureful clients like <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cheogram</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/MonoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MonoclesChat</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Movim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Movim</span></a> etc?</p>
Goffi<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> Hi, please note that e2e encrypted private social network is already possible via XMPP (and notably via Libervia on which I'm working). Not many implementations are available yet though.</p><p>E2ee Chat is already available and widelty used, and I'm currently working on e-mail gateway (<a href="https://nlnet.nl/project/EmailXMPPgateway/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">nlnet.nl/project/EmailXMPPgate</span><span class="invisible">way/</span></a>), as is Cheogram lead dev (<a href="https://smtp.cheogram.com/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">smtp.cheogram.com/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a>)</p><p>Libervia still needs work to be easily usable, I'm on it.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Libervia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Libervia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cheogram</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>email</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/e2ee" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>e2ee</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>encryption</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/socialmedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>socialmedia</span></a></p>
Delta Chat<p>There are sometimes discussions about an end-to-end encrypted private social media e-mail chat network 🤯 Basically you could follow delta chat profiles and subscribe and probably react to their encrypted broadcasts .... </p><p>This and many other discussions are the "humus" on which <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> evolves and, for example, became a super-app: Android 1.50.3 spearheads direct <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> app picking via the "attach" chat action. Actually <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cheogram</span></a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monocles</span></a>, both <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> messengers, released this first!</p>
sister ann 🏴<p>hello fediverse! does anyone here have any referral code for JMP/cheogram they'd be willing to share? my work requires me to have a second number and i really dont wanna go through the hassle of registering another sim card to our local gov. </p><p>if anyone has one to share, i'd be super grateful. thank you! :happy_bunny: </p><p><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/jmp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jmp</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cheogram</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a></p>
Goffi<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://lemmy.ml/u/Samsy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Samsy</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kfem.cat/@arbocenc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>arbocenc</span></a></span> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> can run bridges (called "Transports" or "Gateways" in XMPP terms) since the early ages. And nowadays, there are modern ones with tight integrations: <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Slidge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Slidge</span></a> being a flagship (including a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a> gateway), and I'm myself working on ActivityPub gateway and soon a email one with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Libervia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Libervia</span></a>. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cheogram</span></a> is also working on SMTP gateway. And <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Biboumi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Biboumi</span></a> is the flagship <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a> gateway.</p>
Daniel Gultsch<p>Seems like <a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/Cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cheogram</span></a> went the route of just pretending they upload the contact list to satisfy Google Play requirements.¹</p><p>I get why they are doing this. I've contemplated doing this myself but I’m absolutely not convinced that pretending your app is worse than it is is the right strategy here. Especially because the overwhelming majority of our users are not following us on social media and thus don’t have the context for why we would do this.</p><p>¹: <a href="https://blog.jmp.chat/b/march-newsletter-2024" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">blog.jmp.chat/b/march-newslett</span><span class="invisible">er-2024</span></a></p>