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Jordan Maris 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 #NAFO

in France literally deforms space: you can get from Paris to Marseille in 3 hours, but it takes another 3 hours to get from to

@jmaris Same vibes for the Toulouse - Paris line : you ride in a TGV but it takes almost more time to do the Toulouse - Bordeau segment (not a high speed track yet, riding at 110km/h) than the Bordeaux - Paris one (300 km/h).

Hopefully the LGV in 2032 should reduce the overall traveil time by a full hour.

@jmaris See this isochronic map for a visual representation :)

@jmaris In the mid-19th century, you would have had the same effect for railway trips (fast) and going by horse-drawn coach (not so fast)

@jmaris I heard a hypothesis that there's a certain number of hours a journey can take that people are ok with, and spending money to make it shorter than that will not be rewarded, so the railways don't bother

@wolf480pl I think this is an oversimplified vision: by cutting journey times, people can to further.

@jmaris yeah, and it's cool when that happens.

The context in which I heard that hypothesis was going from Kraków to Gdańsk, which... well.. for many people, once you've reached the sea there's no point going further, the beach is right there.

But when there are places that are further, being able to go to them is certainly cool!

@jmaris They defeated the Massif Central. But at what cost? At. What. Cost????

@pieist I'm from the Massif Central, so the cost of my time and Sanity :(

But actually, the rail line between Paris and Clermont-Ferrand is wholly adequate, although some segments need to be brought up to 200km/h.

However south of Clermont-Ferrand, everything goes (literally) south: no electrification, tracks in a mediocre state, drastic speed limitations...

@pieist but all this to say, rather than building a high speed line through central france, i'd rather they focus on bringing the Paris - Clermont line up to 200km/h, and instead spend the money on fixing up the regional and interregional network in central France (reopening closed lines, improving performance etc...)

@pieist especially when you look at just how badly they have shut down in the last 20 years...